Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
This perception that the Canadian government is somehow 'softer' than that
in the USA puzzles me these days.
Canadian people are nice, sure, but so are Americans. And Canadians abroad
are only marginally less presumptious than Americans at best.
My point is that the Canadian government is becoming increasingly more
similar to our neighbour's to the south. Maybe they aren't quite as
sluggish yet, but they're getting there. It has recently been postulated
that a military coup has occurred here, as a military spokesman recently
announced that they are in Afghanistan and Iraq to 'kill people', not to
be peace keepers. This dramatic change in overt policy was not created in
the house of commons, or even the prime minister's office; instead, it was
created by the ministry of defense, and the government has just gone along
with it, embarrassed of losing credibility should the media and public
realize they are not controlling the military.
Canadians hear and watch so much American media, including intelligent
progressives like Mr. Moore lauding Canadian civility, not to mention the
pefected state propaganda, that they believe they are 'better' than
Americans and don't question and challenge their own backyard, backwater
and backwards government.
All the best,
Kenji
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Sorry for the confusion Kenji. My post was a compliment to the sensibilities
of the Canadian people, not necessarily it's government.
You said: If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than
the US running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you
and pardon me a whole lot more.
Sorry again Kenji. I don't see it. When I travel, I don't see Canadians
expecting preferential treatment, as if their government has convinced them
that being the leader of the free world is their destiny and that the world
owes them a debt of gratitude. More importantly, I don't see a radicalization
of the Canadian government despite taking a big step to the right. Then
again, I guess it's about what you're comparing it to.
Michael Moore accurately pointed out in Bowling for Columbine that
despite having an equal number of firearms in circulation, Canada only shares
a small fraction of the homicide statistics recorded in the US. This speaks
volumes about what's wrong in my country and collective culture.
The hockey analogy is vulnerable to interpretation and I feel the need to
make another clarification. Hockey is BIG in Canada and my reference does not
limit your choices to the NHL or the Olympics (for example). If I was forming
a team of players from local schools and I was given a choice of where to
recruit those players from a map as a result of a dart throw, I'd probably be
better off if the dart landed North of the border.
If nothing in this message makes sense to you, I'll sum up by saying that
my Canadian friends show no signs or symptoms of being part of an empire.
THIS is what's at the core of my last post.
Mike
Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The hockey metaphor is a good one. If acumen at hockey is equated with
'running the whole show', then Canada is getting rotten tomatos thrown at
her, judging by our Home on Native Land's abyssmal performance at
the Torino Winter Olympics ('the true NOR strong NOR free').
If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US
running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you and
pardon me a whole lot more. And the propaganda would be much more subtle
(standard Canadian state propaganda: Canada may be in a mess right now,
but aren't you glad you're NOT AMERICAN?).
Kenji Fuse
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would be running the
whole show.
Of course, Canadians can't make sense of the white man's burden, no
matter how many Molsons you give 'em. So, I wouldn't expect them to do
stuff like put Kofe Annan up against the glass and have bench clearing
brawls with developing countries who can't afford skates, sticks or proper
padding because the IMF repossessed their equipment as part of a loan
bailout agreement.
Mike
JJJN wrote:
Imagine if we could get GW to play center :)
Michael Redler wrote:
Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but
the skates.
...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst
that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth.
Mike
*/JJJN /* wrote:
Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey
game :)
Michael Redler wrote:
What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same
enthusiasm
they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL?
Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you
high-five your pretzel eating friends on either
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Maybe it's that we (americans) don't want to admit that any other
countries have fallen to such a state of depravity as we have. We
want to believe that someone else has to be smart enough to not follow
us. Which I suppose is yet another example of our arrogance -- no one
else can even beat us at having a lousy government.
Zeke
On 3/23/06, Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This perception that the Canadian government is somehow 'softer' than that
in the USA puzzles me these days.
Canadian people are nice, sure, but so are Americans. And Canadians abroad
are only marginally less presumptious than Americans at best.
My point is that the Canadian government is becoming increasingly more
similar to our neighbour's to the south. Maybe they aren't quite as
sluggish yet, but they're getting there. It has recently been postulated
that a military coup has occurred here, as a military spokesman recently
announced that they are in Afghanistan and Iraq to 'kill people', not to
be peace keepers. This dramatic change in overt policy was not created in
the house of commons, or even the prime minister's office; instead, it was
created by the ministry of defense, and the government has just gone along
with it, embarrassed of losing credibility should the media and public
realize they are not controlling the military.
Canadians hear and watch so much American media, including intelligent
progressives like Mr. Moore lauding Canadian civility, not to mention the
pefected state propaganda, that they believe they are 'better' than
Americans and don't question and challenge their own backyard, backwater
and backwards government.
All the best,
Kenji
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Sorry for the confusion Kenji. My post was a compliment to the
sensibilities of the Canadian people, not necessarily it's government.
You said: If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than
the US running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank
you and pardon me a whole lot more.
Sorry again Kenji. I don't see it. When I travel, I don't see Canadians
expecting preferential treatment, as if their government has convinced them
that being the leader of the free world is their destiny and that the world
owes them a debt of gratitude. More importantly, I don't see a
radicalization of the Canadian government despite taking a big step to the
right. Then again, I guess it's about what you're comparing it to.
Michael Moore accurately pointed out in Bowling for Columbine that
despite having an equal number of firearms in circulation, Canada only
shares a small fraction of the homicide statistics recorded in the US. This
speaks volumes about what's wrong in my country and collective culture.
The hockey analogy is vulnerable to interpretation and I feel the need to
make another clarification. Hockey is BIG in Canada and my reference does
not limit your choices to the NHL or the Olympics (for example). If I was
forming a team of players from local schools and I was given a choice of
where to recruit those players from a map as a result of a dart throw, I'd
probably be better off if the dart landed North of the border.
If nothing in this message makes sense to you, I'll sum up by saying that
my Canadian friends show no signs or symptoms of being part of an empire.
THIS is what's at the core of my last post.
Mike
Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The hockey metaphor is a good one. If acumen at hockey is equated with
'running the whole show', then Canada is getting rotten tomatos thrown at
her, judging by our Home on Native Land's abyssmal performance at
the Torino Winter Olympics ('the true NOR strong NOR free').
If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US
running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you and
pardon me a whole lot more. And the propaganda would be much more subtle
(standard Canadian state propaganda: Canada may be in a mess right now,
but aren't you glad you're NOT AMERICAN?).
Kenji Fuse
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would be running
the whole show.
Of course, Canadians can't make sense of the white man's burden, no
matter how many Molsons you give 'em. So, I wouldn't expect them to do
stuff like put Kofe Annan up against the glass and have bench clearing
brawls with developing countries who can't afford skates, sticks or
proper padding because the IMF repossessed their equipment as part of a
loan bailout agreement.
Mike
JJJN wrote:
Imagine if we could get GW to play center :)
Michael Redler wrote:
Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but
the skates.
...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Maybe it's that we (americans) don't want to admit that any other
countries have fallen to such a state of depravity as we have. We
want to believe that someone else has to be smart enough to not follow
us. Which I suppose is yet another example of our arrogance -- no one
else can even beat us at having a lousy government.
:-) Well, there's always Iraq. Ooops... Er, and then there's Burma,
North Korea, Zimbabwe, hm, not quite in your league I suppose. I
don't think the Chinese spend a lot of time selling government fan
club t-shirts on all the street corners, will China do? Um, is this
cheering you up or pissing you off? LOL!
Canadian people are nice, sure, but so are Americans.
Everybody's nice except their governments.
Hey Zeke, how're you doing since you gave your job the boot?
Best
Keith
Zeke
On 3/23/06, Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This perception that the Canadian government is somehow 'softer' than that
in the USA puzzles me these days.
Canadian people are nice, sure, but so are Americans. And Canadians abroad
are only marginally less presumptious than Americans at best.
My point is that the Canadian government is becoming increasingly more
similar to our neighbour's to the south. Maybe they aren't quite as
sluggish yet, but they're getting there. It has recently been postulated
that a military coup has occurred here, as a military spokesman recently
announced that they are in Afghanistan and Iraq to 'kill people', not to
be peace keepers. This dramatic change in overt policy was not created in
the house of commons, or even the prime minister's office; instead, it was
created by the ministry of defense, and the government has just gone along
with it, embarrassed of losing credibility should the media and public
realize they are not controlling the military.
Canadians hear and watch so much American media, including intelligent
progressives like Mr. Moore lauding Canadian civility, not to mention the
pefected state propaganda, that they believe they are 'better' than
Americans and don't question and challenge their own backyard, backwater
and backwards government.
All the best,
Kenji
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Sorry for the confusion Kenji. My post was a compliment to the
sensibilities of the Canadian people, not necessarily it's
government.
You said: If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be
different than the US running the whole show, except Harper Bush
would say please, thank you and pardon me a whole lot more.
Sorry again Kenji. I don't see it. When I travel, I don't see
Canadians expecting preferential treatment, as if their government
has convinced them that being the leader of the free world is their
destiny and that the world owes them a debt of gratitude. More
importantly, I don't see a radicalization of the Canadian government
despite taking a big step to the right. Then again, I guess it's
about what you're comparing it to.
Michael Moore accurately pointed out in Bowling for
Columbine that despite having an equal number of firearms in
circulation, Canada only shares a small fraction of the homicide
statistics recorded in the US. This speaks volumes about what's
wrong in my country and collective culture.
The hockey analogy is vulnerable to interpretation and I feel
the need to make another clarification. Hockey is BIG in Canada and
my reference does not limit your choices to the NHL or the Olympics
(for example). If I was forming a team of players from local schools
and I was given a choice of where to recruit those players from a
map as a result of a dart throw, I'd probably be better off if the
dart landed North of the border.
If nothing in this message makes sense to you, I'll sum up by
saying that my Canadian friends show no signs or symptoms of being
part of an empire. THIS is what's at the core of my last post.
Mike
Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The hockey metaphor is a good one. If acumen at hockey is equated with
'running the whole show', then Canada is getting rotten tomatos thrown at
her, judging by our Home on Native Land's abyssmal performance at
the Torino Winter Olympics ('the true NOR strong NOR free').
If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US
running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please,
thank you and
pardon me a whole lot more. And the propaganda would be much more subtle
(standard Canadian state propaganda: Canada may be in a mess right now,
but aren't you glad you're NOT AMERICAN?).
Kenji Fuse
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would
be running the whole show.
Of course, Canadians can't make sense of the white man's
burden, no matter how many Molsons you give 'em. So, I wouldn't
expect them to do stuff
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Kenji,You wrote:"This perception that the Canadian government is somehow 'softer' than thatin the USA puzzles me these days." You also wrote:"My point is that the Canadian government is becoming increasingly moresimilar to our neighbors to the south."If the Canadian government is becoming increasingly more similar, it's logical to think that they are (for the time being) "softer" if I understand your definition correctly.(IMO) There is nothing to be puzzled about. Canada cannotachieve global hegemony like the US without also becomingit's adversary and eventually going to war.The last major US adversary was the USSR who only hada small fraction of the military and economic power of the US. Still, it almost caused our inhalation. Besides,if the US is following the downward slope associated with the end of every empire, why would Canada be so eager to follow - especially since Canada, in some ways, has beena victim of US global dominance?Let's stick to hockey.:-)MikeKenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This perception that the Canadian government is somehow 'softer' than thatin the USA puzzles me these days.Canadian people are nice, sure, but so are Americans. And Canadians abroadare only marginally less presumptious than Americans at best.My point is that the Canadian government is becoming increasingly moresimilar to our neighbour's to the south. Maybe they aren't quite assluggish yet, but they're getting there. It has recently been postulatedthat a military coup has occurred here, as a military spokesman recentlyannounced that they are in Afghanistan and Iraq to 'kill people', not tobe peace keepers. This dramatic change in overt policy was not created inthe house of commons, or even the prime minister's office; instead, it wascreated by the ministry of defense, and the government has just gone alongwith it, embarrassed of losing credibility should the media and publicrealize they are not controlling the military.Canadians hear and watch so much American media, including intelligentprogressives like Mr. Moore lauding Canadian civility, not to mention thepefected state propaganda, that they believe they are 'better' thanAmericans and don't question and challenge their own backyard, backwaterand backwards government.All the best,KenjiOn Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote: Sorry for the confusion Kenji. My post was a compliment to the sensibilities of the Canadian people, not necessarily it's government. You said: "If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you and pardon me a whole lot more." Sorry again Kenji. I don't see it. When I travel, I don't see Canadians expecting preferential treatment, as if their government has convinced them that being the leader of the free world is their destiny and that the world owes them a debt of gratitude. More importantly, I don't see a radicalization of the Canadian government despite taking a big step to the right. Then again, I guess it's about what you're comparing it to. Michael Moore accurately pointed out in "Bowling for Columbine" that despite having an equal number of firearms in circulation, Canada only shares a small fraction of the homicide statistics recorded in the US. This speaks volumes about what's wrong in my country and collective culture. The hockey analogy is vulnerable to interpretation and I feel the need to make another clarification. Hockey is BIG in Canada and my reference does not limit your choices to the NHL or the Olympics (for example). If I was forming a team of players from local schools and I was given a choice of where to recruit those players from a map as a result of a dart throw, I'd probably be better off if the dart landed North of the border. If nothing in this message makes sense to you, I'll sum up by saying that my Canadian friends show no signs or symptoms of being part of an empire. THIS is what's at the core of my last post. Mike [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Kenji, Kenji, you have to watch when you are titrating. That stuff is cooking your brain. Yours trulyJohn Wilson***Wilsonia Farm Kennel PreserveGoldensPh-Fax (902)665-2386) Web: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/new.htmPups: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/pup.htmPolitics: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/elect.htmhttp://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/c68.htm In Nova Scotia smoking permitted in designated areas only until 9:00 PM . After 9:00 it is okey to kill everyone. ^Nova Scotia going smoke-free in public by 2006 (FANTASTIC) From: Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED]It has recently been postulatedthat a military coup has occurred here, as a military spokesman recentlyannounced that they are in Afghanistan and Iraq to 'kill people', not tobe peace keepers. This dramatic change in overt policy was not created inthe house of commons, or even the prime minister's office; instead, it wascreated by the ministry of defense, and the government has just gone alongwith it, embarrassed of losing credibility should the media and publicrealize they are not controlling the military. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Imagine if we could get GW to play center :) Michael Redler wrote: Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but the skates. ...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth. Mike */JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey game :) Michael Redler wrote: What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same enthusiasm they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL? Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you high-five your pretzel eating friends on either side. There could even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from Wisconsin, etc. Mike [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would be running the whole show.Of course, Canadianscan't make sense of the "white man's burden", no matter how many Molsonsyou give 'em. So, I wouldn't expect them to do stuff like put Kofe Annan up against the glassand have bench clearing brawls with developing countries who can't afford skates, sticksor proper padding because the IMF repossessed their equipment as part of a loan bailout agreement.MikeJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine if we could get GW to play center :)Michael Redler wrote: Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but the skates. ...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth. Mike */JJJN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey game :) Michael Redler wrote: What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same enthusiasm they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL? Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you "high-five" your pretzel eating friends on either side. There could even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from Wisconsin, etc. Mike [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
The hockey metaphor is a good one. If acumen at hockey is equated with
'running the whole show', then Canada is getting rotten tomatos thrown at
her, judging by our Home on Native Land's abyssmal performance at
the Torino Winter Olympics ('the true NOR strong NOR free').
If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US
running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you and
pardon me a whole lot more. And the propaganda would be much more subtle
(standard Canadian state propaganda: Canada may be in a mess right now,
but aren't you glad you're NOT AMERICAN?).
Kenji Fuse
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote:
Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would be running the
whole show.
Of course, Canadians can't make sense of the white man's burden, no
matter how many Molsons you give 'em. So, I wouldn't expect them to do stuff
like put Kofe Annan up against the glass and have bench clearing brawls with
developing countries who can't afford skates, sticks or proper padding
because the IMF repossessed their equipment as part of a loan bailout
agreement.
Mike
JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagine if we could get GW to play center :)
Michael Redler wrote:
Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but
the skates.
...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst
that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth.
Mike
*/JJJN /* wrote:
Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey
game :)
Michael Redler wrote:
What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same
enthusiasm
they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL?
Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you
high-five your pretzel eating friends on either side. There could
even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable
chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from
Wisconsin, etc.
Mike
[snip]
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Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Sorry for the confusion Kenji.My post was a compliment to the sensibilities of the Canadian people, not necessarily it's government.You said: "If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the US running the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you and pardon me a whole lot more."Sorry again Kenji. I don't see it. When I travel, I don't see Canadians expecting preferential treatment, as if their government has convinced them that being the leader of the free world is their destiny and that the world owes them a debt of gratitude. More importantly, I don't seea radicalization of the Canadian government despite taking a big step to the right. Then again, I guess it's about what you're comparing it to.Michael Moore accurately pointed out in "Bowling for Columbine" that despite having an equal number of firearms in circulation,
Canadaonly shares a small fraction of the homicide statistics recorded in the US. This speaks volumes about what's wrong in my country andcollective culture.The hockey analogy is vulnerable to interpretation and I feel the need to make another clarification. Hockey is BIG in Canada and my reference does not limit your choices to the NHL or the Olympics (for example). If I was forming a team of players from local schools and I was given a choice of where to recruit those players from a map as a result of a dart throw, I'd probably be better off if the dart landed North of the border.If nothing in this message makes sense to you, I'll sum up by saying that my Canadian friends show no signs or symptoms of being part of an empire.THIS is what's at the core of my last post.MikeKenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The hockey metaphor is a good one. If acumen at hockey is equated with'running the whole show', then Canada is getting rotten tomatos thrown ather, judging by our "Home on Native Land's" abyssmal performance atthe Torino Winter Olympics ('the true NOR strong NOR free').If Canada ran the whole show, not much would be different than the USrunning the whole show, except Harper Bush would say please, thank you andpardon me a whole lot more. And the propaganda would be much more subtle(standard Canadian state propaganda: "Canada may be in a mess right now,but aren't you glad you're NOT AMERICAN?").Kenji FuseOn Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Michael Redler wrote: Damn! If hockey decided the fate of nations, Canadians would be running the whole show. Of course, Canadians can't make sense of the "white man's burden", no matter how many
Molsons you give 'em. So, I wouldn't expect them to do stuff like put Kofe Annan up against the glass and have bench clearing brawls with developing countries who can't afford skates, sticks or proper padding because the IMF repossessed their equipment as part of a loan bailout agreement. Mike JJJN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Imagine if we could get GW to play center :) Michael Redler wrote: Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but the skates. ...if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth. Mike */JJJN /* wrote: Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey game :) Michael Redler wrote:
What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same enthusiasm they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL? Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you "high-five" your pretzel eating friends on either side. There could even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from Wisconsin, etc. Mike [snip]___
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Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
I had this idea several years ago to choose a leader, something along the lines of a 5 contest system to determine a winner. Looks like this: 1. A soccer/football game. Winner gets 1 pt. 2. 1 year, $10,000. They may invest it however they choose in a PUBLICLY available way. Person w/ most at the end of a year gets 1 pt. 3. Best of 5 chess/go tournament. Winner gets 1 pt. 4. $5,000 and a problem. NO fund raising, no more than $5k to spend. First person to fix the problem, wins. Could be anything, RD, ecological, personnel, whatever. 5. Public question answering session/debate. Anyone who WATCHES/PARTICIPATES can cast 1 vote at the end about who won. Overall winner gets 1 pt. Alternatives: $18,000 for 1 year. They must live without ANY assistance, eating at least 2 meals a day, paying for rent, and spending 40 hours at work. Last one to quit/have the most saved at the end of 12 months gets 1 pt. Essay contest. Winner gets 1 pt. Topic voted on nationwide by 6th graders (because the average american reads at a 5th-8th grade level.) Would be funny anyway, don't ya think? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same enthusiasm they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL?Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you "high-five" your pretzel eating friends on either side. Therecould even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from Wisconsin, etc.MikeJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I say we start a three party system in the US.The Republican is oneThe Democrat are anotherThe election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other,But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can,Vote for SAM,Now if SAM wins the popular vote,Three things happen,(1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too))(2) They are then Tar and feathered(3) We start over with two more.Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
Actually it would be less funny than the circus of politics we have now , but funny still.:) Evergreen Solutions wrote: I had this idea several years ago to choose a leader, something along the lines of a 5 contest system to determine a winner. Looks like this: 1. A soccer/football game. Winner gets 1 pt. 2. 1 year, $10,000. They may invest it however they choose in a PUBLICLY available way. Person w/ most at the end of a year gets 1 pt. 3. Best of 5 chess/go tournament. Winner gets 1 pt. 4. $5,000 and a problem. NO fund raising, no more than $5k to spend. First person to fix the problem, wins. Could be anything, RD, ecological, personnel, whatever. 5. Public question answering session/debate. Anyone who WATCHES/PARTICIPATES can cast 1 vote at the end about who won. Overall winner gets 1 pt. Alternatives: $18,000 for 1 year. They must live without ANY assistance, eating at least 2 meals a day, paying for rent, and spending 40 hours at work. Last one to quit/have the most saved at the end of 12 months gets 1 pt. Essay contest. Winner gets 1 pt. Topic voted on nationwide by 6th graders (because the average american reads at a 5th-8th grade level.) Would be funny anyway, don't ya think? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey game :) Michael Redler wrote: What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same enthusiasm they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL? Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you high-five your pretzel eating friends on either side. There could even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from Wisconsin, etc. Mike */JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I say we start a three party system in the US. The Republican is one The Democrat are another The election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other, But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can, Vote for SAM, Now if SAM wins the popular vote, Three things happen, (1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too)) (2) They are then Tar and feathered (3) We start over with two more. Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Sue ? hell Lynching was only outlawed a few years ago here in Montana lets make it a high crime :) Jeromie Reeves wrote: How about we start suing candidates who make public claims and then do not live up to them? A verbal contract is still a contract. Jeromie JJJN wrote: I say we start a three party system in the US. The Republican is one The Democrat are another The election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other, But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can, Vote for SAM, Now if SAM wins the popular vote, Three things happen, (1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too)) (2) They are then Tar and feathered (3) We start over with two more. Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Imagine Iraqi leaders starting every session wearing everything but the skates....if only the soldiers could be replaced with NHL refs and the worst that ever happened was a few broken bones and some missing teeth.MikeJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Iraq policy debates would be the equal to a good Canadian Hockey game :)Michael Redler wrote: What would happen if US voters watched CSPAN with the same enthusiasm they watch Major League Baseball, the NBA or NFL? Your favorite Senator or Congressperson would make a speech and you "high-five" your pretzel eating friends on either side. There could even be a cottage merchandising industry - you know, inflatable chairs, cheese-head hats for your favorite representative from Wisconsin, etc. Mike [snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Let me choose
I say we start a three party system in the US. The Republican is one The Democrat are another The election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other, But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can, Vote for SAM, Now if SAM wins the popular vote, Three things happen, (1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too)) (2) They are then Tar and feathered (3) We start over with two more. Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Let me choose
How about we start suing candidates who make public claims and then do not live up to them? A verbal contract is still a contract. Jeromie JJJN wrote: I say we start a three party system in the US. The Republican is one The Democrat are another The election is held and you go vote - you can vote for one or the other, But, if you think that one and the other are not worthy of the post then you can, Vote for SAM, Now if SAM wins the popular vote, Three things happen, (1) Public humiliation of one ant the other in stocks (visualize both of the last candidates in stocks (see Opus too)) (2) They are then Tar and feathered (3) We start over with two more. Now we will either get some real good folks elected or ... well you know how us Americans love sports and betting ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
