Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.constitution.org/jjr/socon.htm Rousseau: Social Contract Full text online free. Best Keith Kirk, With all due respect, I think that dropping out is a mistake - especially at a time when the voice of public opinion has gained so much solidarity. Dropping out effectively says that

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am seeing a dichotomy here. I hear some say vote because it is important and then I hear evidence the vote is meaningless and rigged. I tend to think it is pointless at the polls. Voting with your money (or witholding it) is the only practical thing left. What is the point of being rich if you

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-06 Thread Michael Redler
Voting is meaningless?Well, you are part of a very largedemographic if you live in the United States (Ironic - United States).This demographic stays home at election time, leaving the other (roughly) 50%to cast votes ontheir behalf while they complain that the government is being run by

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
The point is this - if the machines are rigged then nothing happens until we take to the streets as in the Nam protests. Voting is a feel good illusion.Course if there is no fraud then some of us are paranoid nutters. I think it is fairly obvious the last election was "adjusted". Whether

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-05 Thread Michael Redler
Kirk,With all due respect, I think that dropping out is a mistake - especially at a time when the voice of public opinion has gained so much solidarity. Dropping out effectively says that you abstain from decisions which effect future generations and that someone will make themselves available

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008/ Do We Throw in the Towel or Fight Back?

2006-03-05 Thread Martin Kemple
Gang, Clearly we are all doing both at the same time: Trying to be as self-sufficient as possible in the basics - food, energy, etc. - to insulate ourselves insofar as we can from the mean upheavals of the fundamentalists (be they self-proclaiming free marketeers or fear-mongering

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-04 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12155.htm Party Hacks The fix is in for 2008. By Chris Floyd 03/02//06 Moscow Times -- -- Two weeks ago, an obscure, unelected, Republican-appointed official in California decided the future of the world. Uh,

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-04 Thread Ken Provost
On Mar 4, 2006, at 7:57 AM, robert luis rabello wrote: How can we take our own country back if the electoral system is rigged against our wishes? I used to complain that the German people of the 1930's essentially did nothing to check the rise of the National Socialists to power, but now

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-04 Thread David Miller
Ken Provost wrote: On Mar 4, 2006, at 7:57 AM, robert luis rabello wrote: How can we take our own country back if the electoral system is rigged against our wishes? I used to complain that the German people of the 1930's essentially did nothing to check the rise of the National

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
Huey "kingfish" Long had a colorful career as the governor of Louisiana. Things went a lot smoother for Huey after he installed an electrical voting machine. True story. The corruption in his administration is legendary. I dont know if he was actually worse than most - but he got a lot of

Re: [Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-04 Thread Alan Petrillo
Keith Addison wrote: http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12155.htm Party Hacks The fix is in for 2008. By Chris Floyd I still remember in 2004 the voting machine I used forced me to select GWB, and then deselect him before it would let me select any other candidate. I worked

[Biofuel] Party Hacks - The fix is in for 2008

2006-03-03 Thread Keith Addison
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12155.htm Party Hacks The fix is in for 2008. By Chris Floyd 03/02//06 Moscow Times -- -- Two weeks ago, an obscure, unelected, Republican-appointed official in California decided the future of the world. That future -- at least for the next several