Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Has anyone researched the using grass as a fuel (i.e. in pellets or blocks)? If yes, can you please post?Great list DaveThanksTony Marzolino[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right... did some searches and found some pellet mills that may be purchased:http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/Pellet_Mill.htmlOf course, these are just examples. A little more searching may turn up a manual or semi-automated process/design. You figure, rabbit feed is in the same form so that may also be an outlet for pellet producing.-dave___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate - Click now to apply___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Have a look about switchgrass. It only requires labour for the first planting and then each successive harvest, ie it is perrenial. I heard from a local organic farmer that as such it gives 13 to 1 energy return when used as a fuel. Maybe a rocket stove ?? Apparently it will grow just about anywhere. Cheers Joe Tony Marzolino wrote: Has anyone researched the using grass as a fuel (i.e. in pellets or blocks)? If yes, can you please post? Great list DaveThanks Tony Marzolino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right... did some searches and found some pellet mills that may be purchased: http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/Pellet_Mill.html Of course, these are just examples. A little more searching may turn up a manual or semi-automated process/design. You figure, rabbit feed is in the same form so that may also be an outlet for pellet producing. -dave ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate - Click now to apply ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Here's an interesting article about grass fuel. It also says they are working on a way to turn the grass into pellets.Grass touted as biofuel, cash crop By Gary Pang (Bloomsburg) Press Enterprise BLOOMSBURG -- The native grasses growing in the area's barren farm fields may be heating homes in a few years -- and providing local farmers with an unexpected cash crop, a state wildlife biologist says. All that's needed are machines that turn the grass into fuel pellets, and a Lackawanna County organization is already working on that. The grass pellet fuel is cheaper and cleaner than oil and wooden chips, said Scott Singer, of the Natural Resources Conservation Service. Canadians and Europeans have been warming their homes for years by burning grass pellets, said Singer. But the pellets are not sold yet in the United States. Planting more grasses such as switch grass, big bluestem and Indian grass, which all can be made into pellets, will benefit farmers, wildlife and the environment, said Singer, who is based in the NRCS office on Sawmill Road. Those grasses, native to this country, can grow in many types of soil, and they can survive both droughts and floods, the scientist said. "They're very tolerant of extreme conditions," he said, adding that they use just half the amount of water and nutrients as plants used for making hay. For flood-prone areas, farmers can plant native grasses such as Eastern gama grass and coastal panic grass, Singer said. During winter, farmers can leave the grasses outside. Snow and rain wash away the chlorine, potassium and silica that don't burn well, said Singer, adding that the grasses become better fuel. After two years, the grasses reach their mature height of 8 feet. During spring, they'll be ready for harvest because the weather dries them. That saves time for farmers, who can pack the grasses into bales right away. That's much faster than hay, which takes days to dry, Singer said. One acre usually yields 21/2 to 3 tons of grasses, said Singer, adding that it can also range as high as 10 tons. The grasses grow back on their own, so farmers don't need to plant seeds again, the scientist said. And, also farmers don't have to worry about erosion. The grass roots, which can reach 10 feet deep, hold the soil in place, Singer said. Birds and other animals benefit, too, when farmers grow more acres of grasses, the biologist said. The vegetation gives cover to wildlife during most of the year. During spring, new grasses will grow and replace the harvested ones. Some Pennsylvania farmers already have the grasses growing in fields that the state and federal governments pay them to keep from farming or selling. People have planted 7,961 acres of native grasses in the area since 1999 as part of the Conservation Reserve Enhancement Program, according to federal statistics. That's the area of about 35 Bloomsburg Fairgrounds. Landowners and renters get paid every year for maintaining parts of their land as wildlife habitats. To stay in the program, participants must leave the grasses alone for 10 to 15 years. Several years from now, some people can leave the program when their contracts expire. Their acres of native grasses will be ready for harvest. Singer plans to tell them about the benefits of making grass pellets. Grass pellets, like wooden one, are burned in stoves. Both types of fuel cost between $150 and $300 per ton, but prices for the wooden pellets have been rising, Singer said. Seventy-five to 100 pounds of grass pellets can heat a 2,000-square-foot home for more than a day, said Singer. Two to 5 tons of grass pellets can heat that home for an entire year, he said.- Original Message From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 10:20:40 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Have a look about switchgrass. It only requires labour for the first planting and then each successive harvest, ie it is perrenial. I heard from a local organic farmer that as such it gives 13 to 1 energy return when used as a fuel. Maybe a rocket stove ?? Apparently it will grow just about anywhere. Cheers Joe Tony Marzolino wrote: Has anyone researched the using grass as a fuel (i.e. in pellets or blocks)? If yes, can you please post? Great list DaveThanks Tony Marzolino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right... did some searches and found some pellet mills that may be purchased: http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/Pellet_Mill.html Of course, these are just examples. A little more searching may turn up a manual or semi-automated process/design. You figure, rabbit feed is in the same form so that may also be an outlet for pellet producing. -dave ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to For
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Right... did some searches and found some pellet mills that may be purchased: http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/Pellet_Mill.html Of course, these are just examples. A little more searching may turn up a manual or semi-automated process/design. You figure, rabbit feed is in the same form so that may also be an outlet for pellet producing. -dave ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Won't it run on BD? Jeromie Reeves wrote: I have a oil stove but it is not hooked up and i was not planning to use it (oil here is $3/gl with 100gal min delivery) With out a auto feeder wood chips do not last. I did find that I can burn large wood chunks 4inch cube-ish). They give a nice large heat impulse that lasts for about 3 hours a cube. Mike Weaver wrote: I used to burn it until a chemist really advised me not to. You are correct that it can be done safely - I just don't feel comfortable with the set up I have. I had though about using a ram like you would use for making rammed earth bricks and mixing sawdust and glc. Now I do burn hardwood chips packed firmly into a paper bag. Okay during the day but won't last over night. Keith had some on JTF with more info. matbe there is a safe process there. I have a furnace blower/injection burning device - I was planning to tear it down and clean it - I have thought of burning 80% filtered WVO 16% RUG and 4% Isoprop, probably mixed with some BD and perhaps #1 HO to keep it thinned out. Good Winter bench project. -Mike Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah thats not good. The operating temp of the stove is ~400~750F so that should be ok but it worries me.. What about pure veggie oil or bio-diesel? It could be possible to make pellets with such. Anyone know much about screw type presses like a meat grinder or sausage press? I am thinking something like that would work better for pellet making then the die press type. Jeromie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, November 03, 2006 9:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: *burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein Probably not a good idea... * If you burn it hot enough the gas will not be a problem: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Jeromie Reeves wrote: Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Ah thats not good. The operating temp of the stove is ~400~750F so that should be ok but it worries me.. What about pure veggie oil or bio-diesel? It could be possible to make pellets with such. Anyone know much about screw type presses like a meat grinder or sausage press? I am thinking something like that would work better for pellet making then the die press type. Jeromie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, November 03, 2006 9:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: *burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein Probably not a good idea... * If you burn it hot enough the gas will not be a problem: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Jeromie Reeves wrote: Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
I used to burn it until a chemist really advised me not to. You are correct that it can be done safely - I just don't feel comfortable with the set up I have. I had though about using a ram like you would use for making rammed earth bricks and mixing sawdust and glc. Now I do burn hardwood chips packed firmly into a paper bag. Okay during the day but won't last over night. Keith had some on JTF with more info. matbe there is a safe process there. I have a furnace blower/injection burning device - I was planning to tear it down and clean it - I have thought of burning 80% filtered WVO 16% RUG and 4% Isoprop, probably mixed with some BD and perhaps #1 HO to keep it thinned out. Good Winter bench project. -Mike Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah thats not good. The operating temp of the stove is ~400~750F so that should be ok but it worries me.. What about pure veggie oil or bio-diesel? It could be possible to make pellets with such. Anyone know much about screw type presses like a meat grinder or sausage press? I am thinking something like that would work better for pellet making then the die press type. Jeromie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, November 03, 2006 9:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: *burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein Probably not a good idea... * If you burn it hot enough the gas will not be a problem: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Jeromie Reeves wrote: Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
I have a oil stove but it is not hooked up and i was not planning to use it (oil here is $3/gl with 100gal min delivery) With out a auto feeder wood chips do not last. I did find that I can burn large wood chunks 4inch cube-ish). They give a nice large heat impulse that lasts for about 3 hours a cube. Mike Weaver wrote: I used to burn it until a chemist really advised me not to. You are correct that it can be done safely - I just don't feel comfortable with the set up I have. I had though about using a ram like you would use for making rammed earth bricks and mixing sawdust and glc. Now I do burn hardwood chips packed firmly into a paper bag. Okay during the day but won't last over night. Keith had some on JTF with more info. matbe there is a safe process there. I have a furnace blower/injection burning device - I was planning to tear it down and clean it - I have thought of burning 80% filtered WVO 16% RUG and 4% Isoprop, probably mixed with some BD and perhaps #1 HO to keep it thinned out. Good Winter bench project. -Mike Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah thats not good. The operating temp of the stove is ~400~750F so that should be ok but it worries me.. What about pure veggie oil or bio-diesel? It could be possible to make pellets with such. Anyone know much about screw type presses like a meat grinder or sausage press? I am thinking something like that would work better for pellet making then the die press type. Jeromie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, November 03, 2006 9:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: *burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein Probably not a good idea... * If you burn it hot enough the gas will not be a problem: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Jeromie Reeves wrote: Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
*burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein Probably not a good idea... * Jeromie Reeves wrote: Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
On Friday, November 03, 2006 9:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: *burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein Probably not a good idea... * If you burn it hot enough the gas will not be a problem: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html Jeromie Reeves wrote: Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.22/512 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.22/512 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be better as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or glycerin? Jeromie Joe Street wrote: Hey Jeromie; Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do waste oil burning but that too looked not to burn clean enough. If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. Now to find a method to chip branches down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final product gives. Jeromie Jason Katie wrote: what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
Nope, but I have an old VC stove and often burn hardwood chips packed into a paper bag. Jeromie Reeves wrote: Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
How about corn? About 2.75 for a bushel. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:36 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix of sawdust and WVO or glycerine? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? -dave On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 From: Jeromie Reeves To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.22/512 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.22/512 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options
corn reeks when you burn it. i doubt any neighbors would appreciate it. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options How about corn? About 2.75 for a bushel. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:36 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this year from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own pellets as I have access to tons of waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not been able to find a pellet machine that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of using straw and hay as we have plenty of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? Jeromie ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.22/512 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.22/512 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
