Re: [Biofuel] Requiring noisy electric cars vs. real problem of digital deadwalkers
Run the buggers over! Total waste of Oxygen! They sound like they are part of the Darwin awards anyway http://www.darwinawards.com/ (very TIC...) We own an Imiev, & it is a problem on our country roads at night: The wildlife are not aware that you are approaching. We need to be careful not to hit anything at night. The California noise makers only work till 25mph from memory anyway. (Mind you we are in Australia, so no noise makers here!) regards, Doug On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:20:40 -0500 Darryl McMahon wrote: > [Forwarding from another discussion list. Context: > > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:49:03 -0800 (PST) > > Subject: [EVDL] Digital Deadwalkers : $52M/yr alert-sound adds noise > pollution& not-a-solution > > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/52M-yr-Quiet-Electrified-cars-alert-sound-rules-by-2019-09-tp4684467p4684478.html > > ] > > TT sez >It is the pedestrian blinded by electronics technology that we > need to concern ourselves with!< > > AAOS calls these Digital Deadwalkers: > > [video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLrcY7iSxFU ] > > Digital Deadwalkers > > American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons Jan 12, 2015 > > "Dude. Engage!" > > The AAOS public service campaign "Digital Deadwalkers" encourages > pedestrians to engage in and with their surroundings.Distracted driving > can cause crashes, injuries and death. It's a prevalent public issue > that the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) continues to > champion. But what about distracted walking? What are the consequences > of pedestrians talking on the phone, texting, listening to music, > engaging deeply in conversation with the person next to them, or > focusing on anything or anyone other than the task of getting where they > need to go? > > Distracted "deadwalkers" are causing an epidemic of fractures and other > orthopaedic injuries. Danger lurks at every corner of our cities and > towns, but what if pedestrians are the ones posing the threats to > themselves and others? Today, more and more pedestrians fall down > stairs, trip over curbs or other objects, and in many instances, step > into traffic, causing serious injury, and even death, each year. > > "We know that the number of injuries to pedestrians using their phones > has nearly tripled since 2004, and surveys have shown that 60% of > pedestrians are distracted by other activities while walking," said Alan > Hilibrand, MD, chair of the AAOS Communications Cabinet. "Orthopaedic > surgeons?the medical doctors who specialize in bones, muscles and > joints?focus on keeping bones strong so that we can keep our nation in > motion. In 2009, AAOS launched the "Decide to Drive" campaign to educate > children, teens and adults about the dangers of distracted driving. For > 2015, the Academy is now expanding its > message to include the dangers of distracted walking." > > http://www.orthoinfo.org/DistractedPedestrians > > > In my life and in my area (Silicon Valley, CA) there are far more > distracted people (that are not physically blind) that do incredibly > dumb things as they have disconnected themselves from the real world > (its like the mobile devices are a tech-drug of a distracted lifestyle) > > To some, this is now common. For others, this seems unbelievable. And it > isn't just teens > > https://www.google.com/search?q=teen+mobile&hs=zbP&biw=1024&bih=642&source=lnms&tbm=isch > > Children to Tweens (age 6 - 12) are also affected: > > https://www.google.com/search?q=tween+mobile&hs=zbP&biw=1024&bih=642&source=lnms&tbm=isch > > https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/children-teen-teenager-teen_culture-smartphone-cellphone-mbcn4046_low.jpg > > http://lowres.jantoo.com/young-people-parenting-teens-gadget-distraction-parent-33235139_low.jpg > > > There is a whole new way to pacify your kid by throwing a cheap mobile > tech device at them (see links below). > > Children and tweens that (if they survive) will grow up to be distracted > adults: > http://image.cagle.com/71027/1155/71027.png?349a92 > > > My point in posting this is that the Million$ being spent are not going > to resolve what the advocates for the blind say is the issue (they are > pushing hard on a door marked pull). > The quiet from electrified vehicles made noisy will not resolve the > tech-addicted brain-distracted children, tweens, teens and adults that > will do dumb disconnected things (like walk without looking> right in > front of a moving vehicle). > > Loud or quiet, there are a whole lot more chances to hit the distracted > walking than a blind person carrying a white cane. > > I am not saying something should not be done to help the blind. But > throwing $52M at it in this way which does not totally resolve the > problem is not a fix. > IMO I think there has to be other ways to alert the blind of coming > moving vehicles. Possibly on an individual blind person point of > approach. Pe
[Biofuel] Requiring noisy electric cars vs. real problem of digital deadwalkers
[Forwarding from another discussion list. Context: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:49:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [EVDL] Digital Deadwalkers : $52M/yr alert-sound adds noise pollution& not-a-solution [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/52M-yr-Quiet-Electrified-cars-alert-sound-rules-by-2019-09-tp4684467p4684478.html ] TT sez >It is the pedestrian blinded by electronics technology that we need to concern ourselves with!< AAOS calls these Digital Deadwalkers: [video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLrcY7iSxFU ] Digital Deadwalkers American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons Jan 12, 2015 "Dude. Engage!" The AAOS public service campaign "Digital Deadwalkers" encourages pedestrians to engage in and with their surroundings.Distracted driving can cause crashes, injuries and death. It's a prevalent public issue that the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) continues to champion. But what about distracted walking? What are the consequences of pedestrians talking on the phone, texting, listening to music, engaging deeply in conversation with the person next to them, or focusing on anything or anyone other than the task of getting where they need to go? Distracted "deadwalkers" are causing an epidemic of fractures and other orthopaedic injuries. Danger lurks at every corner of our cities and towns, but what if pedestrians are the ones posing the threats to themselves and others? Today, more and more pedestrians fall down stairs, trip over curbs or other objects, and in many instances, step into traffic, causing serious injury, and even death, each year. "We know that the number of injuries to pedestrians using their phones has nearly tripled since 2004, and surveys have shown that 60% of pedestrians are distracted by other activities while walking," said Alan Hilibrand, MD, chair of the AAOS Communications Cabinet. "Orthopaedic surgeons?the medical doctors who specialize in bones, muscles and joints?focus on keeping bones strong so that we can keep our nation in motion. In 2009, AAOS launched the "Decide to Drive" campaign to educate children, teens and adults about the dangers of distracted driving. For 2015, the Academy is now expanding its message to include the dangers of distracted walking." http://www.orthoinfo.org/DistractedPedestrians In my life and in my area (Silicon Valley, CA) there are far more distracted people (that are not physically blind) that do incredibly dumb things as they have disconnected themselves from the real world (its like the mobile devices are a tech-drug of a distracted lifestyle) To some, this is now common. For others, this seems unbelievable. And it isn't just teens https://www.google.com/search?q=teen+mobile&hs=zbP&biw=1024&bih=642&source=lnms&tbm=isch Children to Tweens (age 6 - 12) are also affected: https://www.google.com/search?q=tween+mobile&hs=zbP&biw=1024&bih=642&source=lnms&tbm=isch https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/children-teen-teenager-teen_culture-smartphone-cellphone-mbcn4046_low.jpg http://lowres.jantoo.com/young-people-parenting-teens-gadget-distraction-parent-33235139_low.jpg There is a whole new way to pacify your kid by throwing a cheap mobile tech device at them (see links below). Children and tweens that (if they survive) will grow up to be distracted adults: http://image.cagle.com/71027/1155/71027.png?349a92 My point in posting this is that the Million$ being spent are not going to resolve what the advocates for the blind say is the issue (they are pushing hard on a door marked pull). The quiet from electrified vehicles made noisy will not resolve the tech-addicted brain-distracted children, tweens, teens and adults that will do dumb disconnected things (like walk without looking> right in front of a moving vehicle). Loud or quiet, there are a whole lot more chances to hit the distracted walking than a blind person carrying a white cane. I am not saying something should not be done to help the blind. But throwing $52M at it in this way which does not totally resolve the problem is not a fix. IMO I think there has to be other ways to alert the blind of coming moving vehicles. Possibly on an individual blind person point of approach. Perhaps their white cane would have beeping tech that would alert the blind of approaching vehicles, etc. Links [dated] http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/walking-while-texting-could-soon-result-in-jail-time/ Walking while texting could get you arrested, if a NJ law is passed March 28, 2016 ... http://www.safebee.com/travel/distracted-walking-your-phone-and-intersections-dont-mix Distracted Walking: Your Phone and Intersections Don't Mix January 14, 2016 "Digital deadwalkers" are tripping and falling down stairs ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2344933/Pedestrian-mobile-phone-injuries-DOUBLE-years.html The dangers of walking and talking: Pedestrian mobile phone injuries DOUBLE in five years 20
