Re: [Biofuel] The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska
Helo Keith and all our list members Wind energy is also important bioenergy and thank a lot Keith bringing the very interesting information as this can make possivel to come out with the inovative design sd Pannirselvam On 7/21/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.newearthdigest.com/energy/mechanical/wind/neb/nebraska_1.html The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska An online reprint of the original 1899 book on homemade windmills and their applications. The wind should be looked upon as a natural resource just as worthy of development as other natural resources. If we can derive our energy from the wind, why is it not as good as to get it from coal? In the 1890's a good windmill could supply running water in the rural home and much-needed water for irrigation and livestock. Regardless of any vulnerabilities in our electrical grid, the wind will always be with us, and the information in this booklet is as valuable today as it was more than a hundred years ago. As the author, Mr. Barbour put it, ...it is the windmill which makes it possible for the resident of the town, or the farm and ranch to enjoy one of the luxuries and conveniences of the city home. Such water service is cheap and satisfactory. For that reason we feel it is important that this information be preserved and passed along, and we are glad to reproduce the entire text and all illustrations of this important booklet here. - New Earth Digest ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Pagandai V Pannirselvam Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte - UFRN Departamento de Engenharia Química - DEQ Centro de Tecnologia - CT Programa de Pós Graduação em Engenharia Química - PPGEQ Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos - GPEC Av. Senador Salgado Filho, Campus Universitário CEP 59.072-970 , Natal/RN - Brasil Residence : Av Odilon gome de lima, 2951, Q6/Bl.G/Apt 102 Capim Macio EP 59.078-400 , Natal/RN - Brasil Telefone(fone ) ( 84 ) 3215-37690 Ramal210 32171557 Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 3215-3770 residencia 32171557 Cellular 84 88145083 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska
Pannirselvam, I tried to suggest a mass produced wind turbine that is not sensitive to location and could be very cheap. Connected to the grid in a normal wall socket, to spin the meter backwards or sell electricity. Using Darrieus Rotor design for security and to be able to place almost any where, with safety, http://energysavingnow.com/plugin/windturbine.shtml It could be sold as white product I.e. washing machines etc. To grid connect, it uses already available small inverter for solar panels that can be modified. Produced in numbers, it could be very low cost and plug'n play. With 2 or 3 of them, they would cover a normal home, but already one would give a substantial saving and with many of the subsidized plans that exists, it would cover the whole electricity bill. Because the potentially low manufacturing cost, it would be ideal for developing countries. Hakan At 01:36 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Helo Keith and all our list members Wind energy is also important bioenergy and thank a lot Keith bringing the very interesting information as this can make possivel to come out with the inovative design sd Pannirselvam On 7/21/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.newearthdigest.com/energy/mechanical/wind/neb/nebraska_1.html The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska An online reprint of the original 1899 book on homemade windmills and their applications. The wind should be looked upon as a natural resource just as worthy of development as other natural resources. If we can derive our energy from the wind, why is it not as good as to get it from coal? In the 1890's a good windmill could supply running water in the rural home and much-needed water for irrigation and livestock. Regardless of any vulnerabilities in our electrical grid, the wind will always be with us, and the information in this booklet is as valuable today as it was more than a hundred years ago. As the author, Mr. Barbour put it, ...it is the windmill which makes it possible for the resident of the town, or the farm and ranch to enjoy one of the luxuries and conveniences of the city home. Such water service is cheap and satisfactory. For that reason we feel it is important that this information be preserved and passed along, and we are glad to reproduce the entire text and all illustrations of this important booklet here. - New Earth Digest ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Pagandai V Pannirselvam Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte - UFRN Departamento de Engenharia Química - DEQ Centro de Tecnologia - CT Programa de Pós Graduação em Engenharia Química - PPGEQ Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos - GPEC Av. Senador Salgado Filho, Campus Universitário CEP 59.072-970 , Natal/RN - Brasil Residence : Av Odilon gome de lima, 2951, Q6/Bl.G/Apt 102 Capim Macio EP 59.078-400 , Natal/RN - Brasil Telefone(fone ) ( 84 ) 3215-37690 Ramal210 32171557 Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 3215-3770 residencia 32171557 Cellular 84 88145083 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska
Thanks for posting Keith, interesting to read from the technical, not that there are a lot of DYI details, side of things and from how the author speaks of those persons who built them; This much is certain, that they are put up by our best citizens, and not by the worst, and by a stable, and not a roving, unsettled, or shiftless class.Also interesting is that compressed air was thought of as means to store excess energy a 100 years ago. Doug ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska
Thanks for the link Keith. I am prototyping a carousel or as they called it "Merry-Go-Round" It isn't clear to me how they operated the shutters in figures 4 and 5. Figure 35 is a type of phoenician windmill except the Phoenicians used a stone wall and thus only one wind direction was accomodated. Figure 2 is a variant on that but not built by the Phoenicians to the best of my knowledge. It has loss due to the returning sail being open but that also gives simplicity. Mine doesn't use shutters as I want a design that is the absolute simplest. I am using "bedsheets" essentially although any flexible "sail would do -- animal hide, whatever. KirkKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.newearthdigest.com/energy/mechanical/wind/neb/nebraska_1.htmlThe Homemade Windmills of NebraskaAn online reprint of the original 1899 book on homemade windmills and their applications."The wind should be looked upon as a natural resource just as worthy of development as other natural resources. If we can derive our energy from the wind, why is it not as good as to get it from coal?" In the 1890's a good windmill could supply running water in the rural home and much-needed water for irrigation and livestock. Regardless of any vulnerabilities in our electrical grid, the wind will always be with us, and the information in this booklet is as valuable today as it was more than a hundred years ago. As the author, Mr. Barbour put it, "...it is the windmill which makes it possible for the resident of the town, or the farm and ranch to enjoy one of the luxuries and conveniences of the city home. Such water service is cheap and satisfactory."For that reason we feel it is important that this information be preserved and passed along, and we are glad to reproduce the entire text and all illustrations of this important booklet here. - New Earth Digest___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska
http://www.newearthdigest.com/energy/mechanical/wind/neb/nebraska_1.html The Homemade Windmills of Nebraska An online reprint of the original 1899 book on homemade windmills and their applications. The wind should be looked upon as a natural resource just as worthy of development as other natural resources. If we can derive our energy from the wind, why is it not as good as to get it from coal? In the 1890's a good windmill could supply running water in the rural home and much-needed water for irrigation and livestock. Regardless of any vulnerabilities in our electrical grid, the wind will always be with us, and the information in this booklet is as valuable today as it was more than a hundred years ago. As the author, Mr. Barbour put it, ...it is the windmill which makes it possible for the resident of the town, or the farm and ranch to enjoy one of the luxuries and conveniences of the city home. Such water service is cheap and satisfactory. For that reason we feel it is important that this information be preserved and passed along, and we are glad to reproduce the entire text and all illustrations of this important booklet here. - New Earth Digest ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
