Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:54:48 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] TurkeysGreetings,Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good.Bright Blessings,KimAt 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote:Hi All,Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed?Still learning,Tom Irwin___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Greetings, There are some breeds that will actually breed and raise their own young. I haven't had turkeys for about 5 years, so I am not naming breeds since I would probably mix them up. The turkeys that have been bred to have the heavy breasts are the worst, the closer to wild you can stay, the better. I have rarely eaten veal, I refuse to eat it since the animals are so mistreated in the US. Muscovy tastes like duck to me, but I like duck. I grew up eating it and only tasted veal as an adult. What I like about the Muscovy is the number of meals it makes. Killing a mallard duck seems silly, all that work to barely feed 2 people. I sometimes keep them just to keep the mosquitos under control on my ponds. Bright Blessings, Kim At 04:55 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:54:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Tom Irwin wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin Hi! There are wild turkeys in my locale that are quite bright, (they outsmart the hunters quite often, but that might not say as much about the turkeys as the hunters*...) Couldn't tell you the species, but no doubt they're able to make it without human intervention. *A few years ago, a hunter brought someone's goat in to have it dressed, thought he'd bagged his first deer. It was difficult for those who worked at the dressing station to keep a straight face until their customer left! :) It seems like there ought to be a breed or two that have a nearer connection to the wild variety than what usually shows up in the grocer's. doug swanson -- All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All existing databits have been constructed from recycled databits. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Hi Kim, Thanks, I'll keep looking. BTW which duck controls mosquitos in ponds, mallards or muscovies? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:16:25 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] TurkeysGreetings, There are some breeds that will actually breed and raise their own young. I haven't had turkeys for about 5 years, so I am not naming breeds since I would probably mix them up. The turkeys that have been bred to have the heavy breasts are the worst, the closer to wild you can stay, the better.I have rarely eaten veal, I refuse to eat it since the animals are so mistreated in the US. Muscovy tastes like duck to me, but I like duck. I grew up eating it and only tasted veal as an adult. What I like about the Muscovy is the number of meals it makes. Killing a mallard duck seems silly, all that work to barely feed 2 people. I sometimes keep them just to keep the mosquitos under control on my ponds. Bright Blessings,KimAt 04:55 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this?Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:54:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Most domesticated type turkey's are mentally challenged. OTOH, wild type turkeys, while skinny in comparison are very intelligent, and as a group they will make a big dent in the local snake population ( even poisonous snakes ). Greg H. - Original Message - From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 18:54 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Both do well as do Peekings, which are also good to eat. Bright Blessings, Kim At 10:28 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks, I'll keep looking. BTW which duck controls mosquitos in ponds, mallards or muscovies? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:16:25 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, There are some breeds that will actually breed and raise their own young. I haven't had turkeys for about 5 years, so I am not naming breeds since I would probably mix them up. The turkeys that have been bred to have the heavy breasts are the worst, the closer to wild you can stay, the better. I have rarely eaten veal, I refuse to eat it since the animals are so mistreated in the US. Muscovy tastes like duck to me, but I like duck. I grew up eating it and only tasted veal as an adult. What I like about the Muscovy is the number of meals it makes. Killing a mallard duck seems silly, all that work to barely feed 2 people. I sometimes keep them just to keep the mosquitos under control on my ponds. Bright Blessings, Kim At 04:55 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:54:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys and now ducks
Hi Kim, Are the Peekings good fly eaters like the muscovies? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:36:02 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] TurkeysBoth do well as do Peekings, which are also good to eat.Bright Blessings,KimAt 10:28 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim,Thanks, I'll keep looking. BTW which duck controls mosquitos in ponds, mallards or muscovies?Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:16:25 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, There are some breeds that will actually breed and raise their own young. I haven't had turkeys for about 5 years, so I am not naming breeds since I would probably mix them up. The turkeys that have been bred to have the heavy breasts are the worst, the closer to wild you can stay, the better. I have rarely eaten veal, I refuse to eat it since the animals are so mistreated in the US. Muscovy tastes like duck to me, but I like duck. I grew up eating it and only tasted veal as an adult. What I like about the Muscovy is the number of meals it makes. Killing a mallard duck seems silly, all that work to barely feed 2 people. I sometimes keep them just to keep the mosquitos under control on my ponds. Bright Blessings, Kim At 04:55 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:54:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Hi all, Thanks for the info. I really want to do turkeys but the idea of wild birds on free range seems like a lot of work. It there not a tweener turkey breed that is not real stupid but would stay withing mobile fences without escaping? Kill the corporation, Tom Irwin From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:05:46 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] TurkeysMost domesticated type turkey's are mentally challenged.OTOH, wild type turkeys, while skinny in comparison are very intelligent,and as a group they will make a big dent in the local snake population (even poisonous snakes ).Greg H.- Original Message - From: "Garth Kim Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <BIOFUEL@SUSTAINABLELISTS.ORG>Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 18:54Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is calledfor or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys and now ducks
Greetings, Sorry, but I never noticed either breed eating a lot of flies, so I just don't know. Bright Blessings, Kim At 03:23 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Are the Peekings good fly eaters like the muscovies? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:36:02 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Both do well as do Peekings, which are also good to eat. Bright Blessings, Kim At 10:28 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks, I'll keep looking. BTW which duck controls mosquitos in ponds, mallards or muscovies? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:16:25 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, There are some breeds that will actually breed and raise their own young. I haven't had turkeys for about 5 years, so I am not naming breeds since I would probably mix them up. The turkeys that have been bred to have the heavy breasts are the worst, the closer to wild you can stay, the better. I have rarely eaten veal, I refuse to eat it since the animals are so mistreated in the US. Muscovy tastes like duck to me, but I like duck. I grew up eating it and only tasted veal as an adult. What I like about the Muscovy is the number of meals it makes. Killing a mallard duck seems silly, all that work to barely feed 2 people. I sometimes keep them just to keep the mosquitos under control on my ponds. Bright Blessings, Kim At 04:55 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:54:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Greetings, There are some breeds that are domesticated but not overbred for production, so they still have some brains. Check with you local hatchery, they should know the good and bad of all breeds they carry. Bright Blessings, Kim At 03:33 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the info. I really want to do turkeys but the idea of wild birds on free range seems like a lot of work. It there not a tweener turkey breed that is not real stupid but would stay withing mobile fences without escaping? Kill the corporation, Tom Irwin From: Greg and April [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:05:46 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Most domesticated type turkey's are mentally challenged. OTOH, wild type turkeys, while skinny in comparison are very intelligent, and as a group they will make a big dent in the local snake population ( even poisonous snakes ). Greg H. - Original Message - From: Garth Kim Travis To: Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 18:54 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
At 01:33 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Thanks for the info. I really want to do turkeys but the idea of wild birds on free range seems like a lot of work. It there not a tweener turkey breed that is not real stupid but would stay withing mobile fences without escaping? We use India runner ducks to control the bug population, and are quite pleased with the result. Because ducks have webbed feet, they don't damage the garden the way chickens do. Walt http://www.windward.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Turkeys
Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys,(the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys
Greetings, Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:46 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys, (the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How does raising turkeys differ from raising chickens? As a larger bird are they more hardy? Do they eat the same feed? Still learning, Tom Irwin ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
