Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-24 Thread Bob Molloy
ay, August 24, 2006 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway "Yes, a Calivinist nation - all claiming exceptionalism - but this is a collective thing, not really individual." That reminds me of Max Weber's The Protestant Ethic and the

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-24 Thread bob allen
Redler mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway Yes, a Calivinist nation - all claiming exceptionalism

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-23 Thread Mike Redler
Kind sir, Thank your for your gratitude. However, I find myself entirely outdone by your short but profound response. I shall now follow the advice of my esteemed virtual colleague, Mr. Weaver and retire to the loo for a bath. Ta ta, - Redler Martin Kemple wrote: Thanks Mike! Intriguing

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-23 Thread Mike Weaver
A warm bath hath charms to soothe the savage list member ;-) For you, Don Kemple, remember: Incomprehesibility is a gift, son, use it wisely. A Nation of Shopkeepers, all selling local-produced goods? Forgive me, my Schumacher is pretty rusty. Yes, a Calivinist nation - all claiming

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-23 Thread Michael Redler
"Yes, a Calivinist nation - all claiming exceptionalism - but this is a collective thing, not really individual."That reminds me of Max Weber's The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. I started on itbut was distracted. From what I read, It seems worth mentioning in this thread.-

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Kemple
Question: Why didn't most Native Americans, for example, master the wheel for transportation on their own? Why didn't the Chinese, for starters, invent internal combustion much earlier than the opportunists who did? And why didn't the Arabs, for instance, harness electricity much sooner than the

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Get it straight: Benjamin Franklin invented electricity. Henry Ford invented the car. The Wright brothers invented airplanes. Edison invented the phone. -'Merika Martin Kemple wrote: Question: Why didn't most Native Americans, for example, master the wheel for transportation on their own?

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Michael Redler
Martin,Necessity can be broadly defined by what is popularly needed in a civilization.Since "Necessity is the Mother of invention", it stands to reason that the path to any invention is paved by the civilization from which it came.Thecivilizations youmentioned were content withtechnical

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Joe Street
Hey Redler; You're all wishy washy. Despite your engineering degrees! You should move to Canada. You'd fit right in. J ;) Michael Redler wrote: Martin, Necessity can be broadly defined by what is popularly needed in a civilization.Since "Necessity is the Mother of invention", it

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
No roads. They knew of the wheel. I saw a toy in a museum. The romans impressed locals to carry their goods. A Roman soldier could impress a freeman for 3 miles. Then he had to switch. Not much wheels in that.IC engines require a steel industry and China was constrained for hundreds of years

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Michael Redler
I wasn't sure what you meant so...I looked it up.Main Entry: wishy-washyPronunciation: 'wi-shE-"wo-shE, -"wä-Function: adjectiveEtymology: reduplication of washy1 : lacking in character or determination : INEFFECTUAL wishy-washy leadership2 : lacking in strength or flavor : WEAK wishy-washy wines

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Oh. I thought he meant you needed a bath... Michael Redler wrote: I wasn't sure what you meant so...I looked it up. Main Entry: *wishy-washy* Pronunciation: 'wi-shE-wo-shE, -wä- Function: /adjective/ Etymology: reduplication of /washy/ *1* *:* lacking in character or determination *:

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Kemple
Thanks Mike! Intriguing perspective. Though I'm preternaturally suspicious of our (Westerners') proclivity for exceptionalism (from the creed of Manifest Destiny on the one extreme, to its opposite - that we're inveterate predator-imperialists, on the other), it's a hard box to escape from.

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks Mike! Intriguing perspective. Though I'm preternaturally suspicious of our (Westerners') proclivity for exceptionalism (from the creed of Manifest Destiny on the one extreme, to its opposite - that we're inveterate predator-imperialists, on the other), it's a hard box to escape from.

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Street
Yes and Jagadis Chandra Bose was experimenting with milimeter waves ( 60 GHZ radio waves) back in the 1890's before Marconi and Otto Lilienthal was flying under control hundreds of times in the 1890's before the Wright Brothers..but history remembers only certain ones eh? What's up with

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
Political correctness is part of it I think. Tesla was a maverick and Edison a mainstream guy. When JP Morgan realized what Tesla was up to with his global wireless power scheme he pulled the rug out from under Tesla. Even though Tesla invented the induction motor he died poor and alone. I think

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-14 Thread Mike Weaver
It's a date. I'll be wearing a white sport coat and a pink carnation. Wait, by *we* do mean I'm going out with you AND your mom? And who's gonna pay? Michael Redler wrote: You're cuisin' now Weaver! Keep Mom out of it or else we'll have to settle things after school, behind the gym.

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Redler
You're cuisin' now Weaver!Keep Mom out of it or else we'll have to settle things after school, behind the gym.Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Pinkler,I never GPL's it, so it's mine.besides, you're on MY half of the seat! MOM!-WeaverMike Redler wrote:It doesn't matter Weaver! I'm

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-12 Thread Mike Weaver
I invented it. So try not to piss me off. -Mike Big Head Weaver Michael Redler wrote: Tesla invented the modern world far more than Edison or Westinghouse or Marconi. Damn! I didn't even know the modern world was invented. - Redler (average person) */Kirk McLoren [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-12 Thread Mike Redler
It doesn't matter Weaver! I'm sure it was invented so long ago that it's expired and in the public domain by now. So, there's nothing you can do about it! You're not the boss of me! Mike Weaver wrote: I invented it. So try not to piss me off. -Mike Big Head Weaver Michael Redler wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-12 Thread Mike Weaver
Dear Pinkler, I never GPL's it, so it's mine. besides, you're on MY half of the seat! MOM! -Weaver Mike Redler wrote: It doesn't matter Weaver! I'm sure it was invented so long ago that it's expired and in the public domain by now. So, there's nothing you can do about it! You're not the

[Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Joe Street
Here is a link to an entry in the skeptic's dictionary about the producer of that movie. Have a read and do a check on the 'experts' that appeared in that movie to see what their peers have to say about them if you want to have a good laugh. http://skepdic.com/channel.html Too funny! Joe MK

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am not a fan of that Ramtha person. She is quite egotistical. But I would not dismiss the whole film out of hand. Some interesting comments were made that are valid. Remember these people tried to explain the "unexplainable" at least using the frame of reference of the man in the street. Try

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Michael Redler
"Tesla invented the modern world far more than Edison or Westinghouse or Marconi."Damn! I didn't even know the modern world was invented.- Redler (average person)Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am not a fan of that Ramtha person. She is quite egotistical. But I would not

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you are on this list odds are you are not average. Average is the people I just did jury duty with.KirkMichael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:"Tesla invented the modern world far more than Edison or Westinghouse or Marconi."Damn! I didn't even know the modern world was invented.