[Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
The Blackout of August 14, 2003 It all started as a normal humid and hot summer day. Before it was over, the entire Northeast including a large portion of Canada was without power. Ironically, In fact, most of the East and Midwest was operating only at about 75 percent of capacity and in past

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Joe Street
The power grid is so vulnerable I am amazed it hasn't been hit by terrorists already. Back in January 1998 we had four days of freezing rain in eastern Ontario and upstate NY. Only 4 days of freezing rain and the weight of the ice began to topple the big high tension line towers. We often get

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Brian Rodgers
Hey Joe First thing I thought of after reading your story about the power grid being hit by bad guys is dont give them any ideas. Then I had another nave thought (maybe inane would be a better word), what do these terrorists want from us? Lets find out and give it to them! But then I came to

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Joe Street
Hi Brian; Hey Joe First thing I thought of after reading your story about the power grid being hit by bad guys is dont give them any ideas. Yeah I went through those thoughts myself in October 2001 when all the radio stations were asking callers to chime in on how we should protect

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Ray J
All i have heard, they have said it many times.. that they want us to leave them alone to get out of their lands Our way of life offends them... is that so hard?? Ray J what do these terrorists want from us? Let’s find out and give it to them! But then I came to my senses and

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
very hard when they have something we want. Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All i have heard, they have said it many times.. that they want us to leave them alone to get out of their lands Our way of life offends them...is that so hard??Ray J what do these terrorists want from us? Let’s

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
very hard when they have something we want. Not if you can get rid of the want. That's what a real energy policy would accomplish. None of this is a result of an addiction. It's a matter of choice - politically and economically expedient choice. Just that it's turned out to also be

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Redler
The thing about waging war is that the civilians who die, have families who don't forget. It will take at least a generation of healing before a terrorist campaign of our doing is able to subside. When I say "of our doing", I mean the things our government did and didn't do, to both extend a

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread r
The people of other countries i.e. non-Western, have a much longer memory than we do in the West. Think about the Bible, transmitted through oral tradition from generation to generation for thousands of years. Here in (civilized) countries, advertisers, bombarding us with conflicting messages,

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread r
Bush may be leading us over the cliff, but there is where the buck stops, I am certainly not a lemming. I'm getting off the train before the crash. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very hard when they have something we want. Not if you can get rid of the want. That's what a real energy policy

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Greg and April
: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments Hi Brian; Hey JoeFirst thing I thought of after reading your story about the power grid being hit by bad guys is don’t give them any ideas. Yeah I went through those thoughts myself in October 2001 when all the radio stations were

Re: [Biofuel] blackout 8-14-2003, some comments

2005-08-03 Thread Brian Rodgers
Alrighty Joe Very good response. In the back of my mind I had the notion that by researching biofuels and perhaps implementing some sort of alternative fuel strategy I would be putting my family into a group of people that do not want to invade countries for their energy and thus making me