Hello JD2005,
can you give me some information. What is this radioactive material that 
they(who?) are
putting in washing powder. Also how does this material disasociate water or 
make clothes dry faster?
thanks for your reply
regards
tallex

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> From: "JD2005" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
> Sent: 27 Apr 2005 12:10:55
>
>  I do not agree with the utilisation of water to get wasser stoff (hydrogen)
>  but it is possible to dissociate water with radioactive material such as
>  they are putting in washing power these days to make laundry dry more
>  quickly.
>  
>  JD2005
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: bob allen
>  > I guess if you ran the electrolysis device in your living room to
>  > recover the lost heat, but still there have to be better ways to provide
>  > space heat.
>  >
>  > It would be just as efficient and a lot cheaper to run a bare nichrome
>  > wire for heat.
>  >
>  > Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind
>  generator
>  > > regards
>  > > tallex
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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>  > >
>  > >>From: "Kirk McLoren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place
>  > >>Sent: 25 Apr 2005 21:01:21
>  > >>
>  > >> If your electrolyzer is 50% efficient then half the power is lost. I
>  guess they are thinking they can make hydrogen in the daytime and burn it at
>  night. A battery and a heatpump would be enormously more efficient.
>  > >>
>  > >> Michael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:OK, I did some poking around
>  and had a little trouble finding a Watt-hr/BTU value for hydrogen production
>  using electrolysis.
>  > >>
>  > >> Does anyone have a link with some stats?
>  > >>
>  > >> Mike
>  > >>
>  > >> Kirk McLoren wrote:
>  > >> Supplemental oxygen is mandatory in an unvented heater in most cases.
>  Otherwise the oxygen level would get very low. Most ventless heaters are
>  cycling on their low oxygen sensor as a result. Ventless heaters are cheap,
>  thus the appeal. They are not of much use north of say Georgia. Besides, low
>  oxygen levels are a VERY BAD idea.
>  > >>
>  > >> Kirk
>  > >>
>  > >> "Alt.EnergyNetwork" wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> Hi all,
>  > >> This is interesting - a hydrogen fireplace. Uses standard
>  > >> electrolysis of water.
>  > >> You still have to use electricity for it to work so it is definately
>  > >> not free heat but it doesn't need any venting so it can be easily
>  installed.
>  
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