yes that`s the one. i read something in old mother earth news, and then out
came thunderdome
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From: Christopher Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, June 22, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel
hi Greg
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, June 22, 2003 2:22 PM
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Hoi Greg,
That sounds interesting. What is a Methane digester ? Can I build it or buy
snip
As to Pieter Kools question, If the excreatment ( can we say that on this
list? ),
Excrement happens Greg, in more ways than one, especially here where
biogas is very much on-topic (and a very welcome topic too).
which is the source of the heavy NH3 in the air, is run through a
Methane
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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:04
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... but not until the sludge has been composted. That it's rich in
N, P and K doesn't necessarily make it a good
5:21 AM
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From: Robert Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 19:26
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel
Somehow, we must get the messages in better
] Ammonia as Fuel
snip
As to Pieter Kools question, If the excreatment ( can we say that on this
list? ),
Excrement happens Greg, in more ways than one, especially here where
biogas is very much on-topic (and a very welcome topic too).
which is the source of the heavy NH3 in the air, is run
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:35 PM
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It isn't clear to me at what temperature it can become liquid
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:07:17 +0200, you wrote:
How does one use NH3 as energy source ?
I ask this, because in Holland we have big problems with NH3 polution coming
out of huge animal houses with hundreds of thousends of pigs or chickens.
If we could filter the NH3 out of the air and use it as a
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From: greg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel
what you have is methanol.compress it, and you can run your car. same as
with propane. greg
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL
Methanol is the simplest of alcohols, with the chem. formula of CH3OH, it is
also a liquid, how do you compress it?
Greg H.
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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 14:45
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what you
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:07 PM
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How does one use NH3 as energy source ?
I ask this, because in Holland we have big problems with NH3 polution
coming
Ooops sorry about the repeat.
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How does one use NH3 as energy source ?
I ask this, because in Holland we have big problems with NH3 polution
coming
out of huge animal houses with hundreds of thousends of pigs or chickens.
If
] Ammonia as Fuel
what you have is methanol.compress it, and you can run your car. same as
with propane. greg
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel
Netherlands
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From: greg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel
what you have is methanol.compress it, and you can run your car. same as
with propane. greg
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From: Robert Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 19:26
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel
Somehow, we must get the messages in better order.
Ammonia was never discussed as a fuel. It's
First any liquid, reguardless of what it is WILL NOT COMPRESS !!
Actually, liquids can be compressed. But the degree is so miniscule as to be
in many respects discounted entirely.
You've got to ask yourself why many reactions take place better under
pressure? Sure, most pressurized reactions
what you have is methanol.compress it, and you can run your car. same as
with propane. greg
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel
How does
It isn't clear to me at what temperature it can become liquid. It
seems to me that a big part of why I was advocating other fuels is
that, in liquid form, they can be transported and used with greater
energy density. I do think it's close to being easily made into a
liquid, but that at room
It is made liquid a relatively high (although freezing) temperature
and low pressure. That is exactly why it was used in fridges,
to move heat you need these properties. CFC is also used
because of its similar vaporization points.
Ammonia is dangerous if concentrated. It will also easily burn
Ammonia (gaseous) mixed with air in the right ratio forms an explosive
mixture. But then that can be said for a lot of fuels with low vapour
points.
Regards Paul Gobert.
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