Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Marc snip Aerobic composting produces a (very) useful product, the compost, with the heat essentially a by-product, often a waste-product (very under-utilized); anaerobic digestion primarily produces energy, the biogas, and a resultant sludge that isn't useful and is difficult to handle.

[biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Marc de Piolenc
Keith wrote: But piggeries and chicken yards are best part of a mixed farm, not standalones. In Hong Kong's rural areas the guvmint, being a guvmint, and very much subject to Chris's Leviathan's First Rule, decided specializing was best. Previously the peasant system was mixed, like all

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Marc de Piolenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel List biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 02:46 Subject: [biofuel] Biogas Digester Recently, there have been addenda to the anaerobic digestion schemes involving an aerobic post

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Kris Book
I found a web site that discusses an aerobic/anaerobic biodigester. They claim that what is left after the methane is removed is so clean that the effluent can be used as a complete hydroponics solution or as a conventional organic fertilizer. http://www.hydor.eng.br/Pag21-1.html --- Keith

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Shaji Pallath
Sirs, It may not be feasible to simultaneously utilise the heat of composting and the methane. Composting is an AEROBIC process while methane production is ANAEROBIC. Different groups of bacteria which are entirely different are resposible for the processes. No utilisable heat is evolved in

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Keith Addison
hello Marc Keith wrote: But piggeries and chicken yards are best part of a mixed farm, not standalones. In Hong Kong's rural areas the guvmint, being a guvmint, and very much subject to Chris's Leviathan's First Rule, decided specializing was best. Previously the peasant system was mixed, like

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Keith Addison
Kris Book wrote: I found a web site that discusses an aerobic/anaerobic biodigester. They claim that what is left after the methane is removed is so clean that the effluent can be used as a complete hydroponics solution or as a conventional organic fertilizer.

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Keith Addison
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 00:21 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester Whatever one might think of Chairperson Mao, his Seven Characters, rules for agriculture, were pretty good. One

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-18 Thread Keith Addison
Sirs, It may not be feasible to simultaneously utilise the heat of composting and the methane. Composting is an AEROBIC process while methane production is ANAEROBIC. Different groups of bacteria which are entirely different are resposible for the processes. No utilisable heat is evolved in

[biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-17 Thread Darren
Read interesting article in Permaculture Magazine no.30 about Jean Pain and his work with shredded woodland thinnings. A search on the net turned up this http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/2002-March/000294.html which summerizes(follow the threads for more) . Sorry if this has

Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-17 Thread Keith Addison
Read interesting article in Permaculture Magazine no.30 about Jean Pain and his work with shredded woodland thinnings. A search on the net turned up this http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/2002-March/000294.html which summerizes(follow the threads for more) . Sorry if this has

[biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-17 Thread Marc de Piolenc
This post... Read interesting article in Permaculture Magazine no.30 about Jean Pain and his work with shredded woodland thinnings. Interesting he produced methane from the woodland wastes and used the compressed gas for vehicles, machinery and generator. Used the heat of the

[biofuel] Biogas Digester

2002-09-17 Thread Marc de Piolenc
About the hazards of digesting. The el cheapo Fijian bag digesters are actually quite safe. 1. No missiles - if they do explode, the bag ruptures and that is that. 2. Continuous rather than batch mode - less gas resident at any one time 3. Variable volume - collapses when gas is withdrawn,