Please don't scare me like this guys.   This crap sound like a bunch of
Russians just before the Communist Revolution.... Talking about how the
Bolshevics (Europeans on this list, feel free to correct)  have "so much"
... and how "we have so little".    And "that's why we NEED to have the RISE
of the SOVIET UNION".

Curtis

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----- Original Message -----

From: Thor Skov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

as opposed to capitalsim and plutocracy as it is practiced in the US today,
where the capitalists (those who control capital and wealth) have a
political influence far beyond their actual numbers;

By these definitions I'd like to see a lot more socialism in the US and a
lot less capitalism.

In the U.S. today we have massive subsidies of the wealthy by the working
classes.  Those who have the least subsidize the lifestyles of those who
have more and the most through low wages, poor working conditions, meager or
absent vacation, medical, and retirement benefits, and little or not job
security. The working poor in the US have a really crappy situation.
Opportunities are few; they bear a disproportionate share of the tax burden
(not to mention serving in the armed forces).  There is a lot of suffering
that could be substantially remedied with a more equitable tax structure.

and replaced with substantial wealth taxes at the federal level.



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