Hello Andrew There has been talk of setting up centralized labs on a sort of coop basis where small producers could send samples for testing at affordable rates. Several people have discussed this idea, in several countries, but I don't think anything has come of it yet.
After industry people approached us saying they wanted to collaborate with the "grassroots biodiesel movement" and were prepared to put resources and money into it, we proposed a model for technical input from industry that would have achieved this. This wasn't a one-way proposal - much of it dealt with how biofuelers could help industry's biodiesel promotional efforts. I was told the proposal was due for discussion "next week" - and never heard anything further. It was a good proposal. The whole exercise simply wasted a load of time and energy, and, I must admit, evaporated quite a lot of goodwill on my part. So it remains undone. It should be done, but who among biofuelers has the resources or the time for such an effort? Certainly not me, having wasted that much time and more already, not being a producer nor interested in becoming one, and in fact not even being particularly interested in US developments - we're a 3rd World project after all. Yet people like Mike Pelly do things like this, for nothing - this was on the front-page of a major newspaper, no easy feat. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134545408_biodiesel30.html Biodieselers do a great deal of this, very effective campaigning at every level, which most certainly helps industry. And they admit it. But they're apparently quite happy to accept it, for nothing given in exchange, beyond badmouthing us. And they're oh-so-shocked when we're sceptical of them. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever >Hi folks. I'm learning a lot from the ongoing lively debate-- thank you. > >Regarding the issue that has been at hand-- whether big producers deliver >better quality and reliability than small producers or not, and whether any >quality differences are cause for concern among potential consumers or not: >it seems to me that one way to nip this in the bud REGARDLESS of whether >there are valid concerns or not would be to have a credible BD fuel quality >testing service, perhaps with some public funding and perhaps with modest >fees paid by producers, perhaps on a sliding-scale based on the size of >their revenues. If a producer wished to be "certified" that their fuel was >top-notch, they could avail themselves of this service by sending fuel >samples (each month?) and fleet managers, consumers, and anyone else who >cares would have an objective answer to their quality concerns, whether or >not those concerns are valid. Has this ever been undertaken? > >If not, would such a service effectively serve the purpose I've outlined, >and in what form (government, non-profit, or for-profit) would such a >service be most effectively delivered? > >Andrew Hoppin >The Biofuel Business Development Project >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ >Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact >On the Long-Range Future of Humanity >------------------------------------ >N Space Labs, Inc. >Vizualize Your Business >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >646.221.5602 (mobile) >158 Lafayette St. 2nd Floor >NY, NY 10013 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> ˇFREE Health Insurance Quotes-eHealthInsurance.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/1.voSB/RnFFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
