Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
Great point. In fact, just at my own house, I'm thinking of replacing my Propane fireplace (for which I've installed no tank) with a woodburning one which would help me dispose of unwanted biomass growth from my own property. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:32:38 -, you wrote: >I agree with the idea

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
Is that the one that former CIA director Woolsey had something to do with? I'm not asking to be cynical, but to clarify. It seemed to me that after leaving Gov't direct service, and in being a very vocal supporter of biofuels, I had heard that he had taken an interest in one of the biofuel compa

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread j_schearer2000
I agree with the idea of returning ag waste to the cropland, but there are other sources. A large percentage of cellulosic biomass comes from cities, parks within cities, housing complexes, suburbs. Everytime I take a drive into the more populated areas in the spring, summer, and fall, I see

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Addison > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story. > > > Hello Art > > >Keith, > > > >I join your efforts! > > Excellent! > > >I am the strongest proponent of re

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread Art Krenzel
M Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story. Hello Art >Keith, > >I join your efforts! Excellent! >I am the strongest proponent of returning biomass to soil as soil >amendment. I began the world's largest composting program twelve >years ago.

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread j_schearer2000
What about BC International Corporation located in Massachusetts, U.S.? From what I have read from their website, they have already been converting cellulosic biomass to ethanol for some time now. They claim to have numerous patents on their technology, so it sounds like this is big business

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Darryl notified my off-list that one of the links at our "Ethanol from cellulose" section was dead, this one: "Wood-Ethanol Report: Technology Review", Environment Canada 1999 -- good overview of the problem and the current solutions on offer. Quite an interesting report. He'd checked and I al

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
himself more than a century ago, but it's still gospel, eh? Do you have a website Art? Best wishes Keith >Art Krenzel, P.E. >PHOENIX TECHNOLOGIES >10505 NE 285TH Street >Battle Ground, WA 98604 >360-666-1883 voice >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - Original Messag

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread Art Krenzel
al Message - From: riored96 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story. Well, I guess I got fooled. Alcohol from cellulose, with an enzyme process, is not new. IMO, its just a cost issue. KA, I disagree about soil fe

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread riored96
Well, I guess I got fooled. Alcohol from cellulose, with an enzyme process, is not new. IMO, its just a cost issue. KA, I disagree about soil fertility. I don't see any reason why mineral residue could not be returned to the soil. Ethanol is just, carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. With that said, cost

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-26 Thread Art Krenzel
s.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story. Hello RR >If this story is true, it would be of monumental importance. >Billions of tons of this stuff (cellulose) must be produced yearly >around the world, in association with food producti

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hello RR >If this story is true, it would be of monumental importance. >Billions of tons of this stuff (cellulose) must be produced yearly >around the world, in association with food production. >What is the holdup, with exploiting this technology? >If India/China needs fuel for cars, here it is.

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-25 Thread riored96
If this story is true, it would be of monumental importance. Billions of tons of this stuff (cellulose) must be produced yearly around the world, in association with food production. What is the holdup, with exploiting this technology? If India/China needs fuel for cars, here it is. The lack of