Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-11 Thread Doug Foskey
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:39, you wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:09:34 -0800, you wrote: LINUX! virus free. As much as we need to bail on modern fuels we need to bail on micro$oft... Ken Well, I can agree with some of this anti-MS feeling, if only because I don't

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-11 Thread murdoch
I'm glad to find some agreement on this, as it was obviously not a good experience for me (losing everything because I thought I'd take drastic measures to try to prevent losing everything). There are so many good softwares that have been tried and-or half tried. I used to be a geos enthusiast

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo

2002-12-10 Thread Ken
LINUX! virus free. As much as we need to bail on modern fuels we need to bail on micro$oft... Ken - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:51 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re:Virus

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-10 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:09:34 -0800, you wrote: LINUX! virus free. As much as we need to bail on modern fuels we need to bail on micro$oft... Ken Well, I can agree with some of this anti-MS feeling, if only because I don't like to give all my business to a place

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo

2002-12-10 Thread Steve Spence
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo LINUX! virus free. As much as we need to bail on modern fuels we need to bail on micro$oft... Ken

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch
This is criminal and not a practical joke. I could track them down to ISP, connection port and exact time. The ISP could clearly identify the connection and customer. I reported this vandalism to the ISP and police. To fix it, it took me 3 hours, so I forwarded a claim of $225. I also took

[biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo

2002-12-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Hackers are people who breaks the security and get access to a computer system. Most of them do not make destructive viruses but some use the virus to plant Trojans. Virus developers are destructive criminals. Both hackers and virus producers should be pursued legally and not only get a

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo

2002-12-08 Thread Doug Foskey
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:51, you wrote: Hackers are people who breaks the security and get access to a computer system. Most of them do not make destructive viruses but some use the virus to plant Trojans. Virus developers are destructive criminals. Both hackers and virus producers should be

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo

2002-12-08 Thread Steve Spence
PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo Hackers are people who breaks the security and get access to a computer system

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-08 Thread Hakan Falk
- From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection was: WARNING! - enemy action by Yahoo Hackers are people who breaks the security and get access to a computer system. Most of them do not make

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-08 Thread Steve Spence
:01 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection I learned programming 1965 on IBM 1130 and have used computers ever since. 1969 I came into professional computing as responsible for starting timesharing business in Sweden on a 360/50, at that time the 3rd largest computer in Sweden. After

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection I learned programming 1965 on IBM 1130 and have used computers ever since. 1969 I came into professional computing as responsible

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-08 Thread murdoch
On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 20:43:27 +0100, you wrote: Well Steve, The crackers as you call them are calling themselves hackers and the last 8 years they have been identified as hackers. Indeed. I wonder if this clear line that Steve paints is not always observed by all hackers, so that they

Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-08 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, You are so right, hacking code is something we have done for at least the last 30 years. This is not the same as being a hacker. I had some guys from southern Germany, hacking the code on a bulletin board that I was testing and introduced porno pictures. This is criminal and not a

Hackers - Re: [biofuel] Re:Virus protection

2002-12-08 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/crime/denning.hackers.html Concerning Hackers Who Break into Computer Systems Dorothy E. Denning Digital Equipment Corp., Systems Research Center 130 Lytton Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94301 415-853-2252, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To be presented at the 13th National Computer