Hallo Folks, Sunday, 28 November, 2004, 02:38:12, you wrote:
C> True, but what I mean is that life struggles to keep order within, C> at least. C> And, since a single individual can't do that forever, we procreate. C> Best regards, C> Christopher I'm replying to Christopers mail but these are just some general thoughts. I suppose I should not be amazed at how unreasonable people tend to be. I look at nearly anything, partisan politics, economics, religion and see the language of reasonableness but not the substance. It is as though folks just don't want to get along the want to be RIGHT at all costs. Now these are generalities folks. I don't know that I would set myself up as the standard by which reasonableness should be measured, but I don't see any conflict at all between evolution and creationism other than the artificial posturing by both sides. Artificial? Sure. Let's see either side give adequate proofs of anything they posit. They are all theories. Religion is theoretical. Science is theoretical. With religion the only sure knowledge we have is personal, subjective. Beyond that lies theory. Let's say there is a God or whatever one chooses to call it (let us not quibble over name and form). Suppose God thought, "Hmm, I believe I will create something out of nothing (our concepts)." and then set creation loose which resulted in a big bang or any other method and that set evolution to going. Then suppose, after evolution had worked long enough to get the sentient critters we humans are going and they decided to make sense and order out of things they did not understand so they decided write their holy texts explaining THEIR understanding of that which is beyond all understanding and set creation down as being six days and the date of creation some 6.000 years ago. Then along comes science and says, "You've got your dates wrong so that invalidates the whole shebang." Both sides being wrong and unreasonable. Now let's say there is no God or whatever one chooses to call it. Let's say that we are an accident of nature and will never know how the whole thing began. Then let's further posit that humans created religion and imagined God to explain that which is also beyond all understanding which calls folks, in its proper use, to aspire to their highest moral and ethical values and to give more order and purpose to their lives than they might otherwise have. Where is the harm in that? And remember, I am not talking about the intolerance, hate and violence which seems to be the hallmark of organized religion, but of the love and cooperation engendered by ones personal relationship with that highest ideal we call God or whatever our religion chooses to call it. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive unless misused and misapprehended. It is only when partisanship enters and reasonableness and reason are absent when this occurs. There is a middle way which allows for both to coexist with dignity but some of the hardest words in any language are, "I could be mistaken." We tend to confuse truth with fact and knowledge with wisdom and perhaps most importantly we tend to equate our own pipsqueak point of view with full knowledge and understanding in areas where full knowledge and understanding are, at least in this point of our development, beyond total comprehension. We humans are an odd lot, eh? Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli ******** The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters" ******** Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewšhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. ******** Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin ******** The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
