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EREN NETWORK NEWS -- September 18, 2002
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE)
Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network (EREN).
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Featuring:
Hello again Paul
I tried slaked lime to remove FFAs as you suggested. The filtering is
a pain, and the result wasn't very good. It did take out some FFA,
but it didn't neutralize the oil, though I used an excess. I didn't
titrate it afterwards, maybe I should have, but that would have been
In a message dated 9/17/2002 3:05:13 PM Hawaiian Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was a great help, because I have search for the common
term for these stoves for a while now and did not get good
suggestions. It is a very good construction and I recommend
it too, even if we have
The really odd bit, at least to me, is when you consider the first miracle
Jesus performed was turning water into wine.
How Christians can curse someone for a beer or glass of wine makes me
wonder if they ever read the Bible.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Witmer
Not all Christians are tea totalers. Not all tea totalers are
Christian.
Kinda' funny. I have to ship an order out this week to a cat
named Jesus Pegan. Of course there are the requisite squiggles
over the u and a.
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Terry Wilhelm writes:
I wish that the people that do not have or have ever [sic] tried
to get an Alcohol Fuel Producers Permit from ATF would refrain
from giving their opinion. [ouch!] The permit ATF F 5110.74
does not state that the still must be set up on commerical
property.
Alas, the feds
I can agree with your comments.but...you are referring to a distilled
spirits plant.
That is not the case or even close when we are talking about Alcohol Fuel
Producers or redistillers permit. And we can still go to the reclaiming or
redistilling permit side of ATF.
I just dont think
Hello Marc
snip
Aerobic composting produces a (very) useful
product, the compost, with the heat essentially a by-product, often a
waste-product (very under-utilized); anaerobic digestion primarily
produces energy, the biogas, and a resultant sludge that isn't useful
and is difficult to handle.
In a message dated 9/17/2002 3:05:13 PM Hawaiian Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was a great help, because I have search for the common
term for these stoves for a while now and did not get good
suggestions. It is a very good construction and I recommend
it too, even if we
Todd,
If Hemp fiber board is such a leap in price/performance as
the PC, I am sure that it is a huge market for it.
I wished that the construction sector was as open, for even
basic advances in engineering, as the computer sector. Then
we would spend on average 50% less energy in our
Keith wrote:
But piggeries and chicken yards are best part of a mixed farm, not
standalones. In Hong Kong's rural areas the guvmint, being a guvmint,
and very much subject to Chris's Leviathan's First Rule, decided
specializing was best. Previously the peasant system was mixed, like
all
They did not read the bible, because then they would
serve the best wine first.
Christopher did a good resume of history, but forgot about
the connection to the present. The redistribution of wealth
that was caused by the Prohibition is still in charge. They
discovered that maintaining the
They have done their best on sex too, but it always fall apart on
the question of how you can tax it. If we can work out a good tax
scheme, it can maybe replace the energy taxes. The risk for
depletion and lack of income is then minimized and the
governments are no longer dependent of income
Hakan Falk wrote:
One [sex] inspector for every 10 people could be enough.
The way sex is enjoyed these days (couch potato style) I should think
there would be about 10,000 inspectors per patriotic taxpayer.
. . . some of the income will go
to farm subsidies, so it is no problems with the
Of course the politicians like to legalize prostitution. Some
of them must have a large sympathy and understanding for the
situation that the prostitutes are in. And why do they have to pay
income tax and prostitutes not?
Hakan
At 08:33 PM 9/18/2002 +0900, you wrote:
Hakan Falk wrote:
One
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Appal Energy wrote:
Actually, if the ethanol is to be used in continued manufacture
it does not have to be denatured. Problem is that there is a
sales transaction between a small guy who looks like a consumer
and a manufacturer, which looks a might suspicious to ATF.
My my ... I go to bed, satisfied with the relatively
simple answer I received last night
Wake up in the morning ... Whoa!! Sorry I asked!!
Terry,
I think you misunderstood my original question. And
for that I apologize. What I wanted to know .. was
NOT what the regulations are
(whispering) Hey guy .. pssst ...
I think I got my answer!! I don't want Keith to get
out of bed as I have ... and find 250MB of
prostitution thread!!
I tell you what we DEFINETELY need to do. We need to
create a new yahoogroup!! Called Biofuel- the
off-topic spinoffs. That way we can
Oh, in case wondering minds be out there, my
sentiments about drinking are purely personal. I
feel no need to preach, .. so that's WHY you need to
change YOUR life . Wanted to make sure that was
clear!!
Curtis
--- Christopher Witmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, they don't curse the
Good night and may you have sweet dreams about
the greatest democracy in the world, fair and with
equal rights for all people.
Hakan
At 05:04 AM 9/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
My my ... I go to bed, satisfied with the relatively
simple answer I received last night
Wake up in the morning ...
Is Steve Spence's Webconx site down? I cannot seem to get it or
anything close to it?
fred
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From: Marc de Piolenc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel List biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 02:46
Subject: [biofuel] Biogas Digester
Recently, there have been addenda to the anaerobic digestion schemes
involving an aerobic
I found a web site that discusses an aerobic/anaerobic
biodigester. They claim that what is left after the methane
is removed is so clean that the effluent can be used as a
complete hydroponics solution or as a conventional organic
fertilizer. http://www.hydor.eng.br/Pag21-1.html
--- Keith
(whispering) Hey guy .. pssst ...
I think I got my answer!! I don't want Keith to get
out of bed as I have ... and find 250MB of
prostitution thread!!
I tell you what we DEFINETELY need to do. We need to
create a new yahoogroup!! Called Biofuel- the
off-topic spinoffs. That way we can
Sirs,
It may not be feasible to simultaneously utilise the heat of composting and the
methane.
Composting is an AEROBIC process while methane production is ANAEROBIC.
Different groups of bacteria which are entirely different are resposible for
the processes.
No utilisable heat is evolved in
I'm real new to this (biodiesel); just making small batches to run in the
Rabbit.
I picked up about 4 gallons of WVO today, it's liquid at 50d.F, but very
murky, almost like it has mud in it.
What's the preferred treatment for this stuff?
Thanks!
Neil
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hello Marc
Keith wrote:
But piggeries and chicken yards are best part of a mixed farm, not
standalones. In Hong Kong's rural areas the guvmint, being a guvmint,
and very much subject to Chris's Leviathan's First Rule, decided
specializing was best. Previously the peasant system was mixed, like
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EREN NETWORK NEWS -- September 18, 2002
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE)
Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network (EREN).
http://www.eren.doe.gov/
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Featuring:
I'm real new to this (biodiesel); just making small batches to run in the
Rabbit.
I picked up about 4 gallons of WVO today, it's liquid at 50d.F, but very
murky, almost like it has mud in it.
What's the preferred treatment for this stuff?
Thanks!
Neil
Settle, filter, dewater, titrate,
Kris Book wrote:
I found a web site that discusses an aerobic/anaerobic
biodigester. They claim that what is left after the methane
is removed is so clean that the effluent can be used as a
complete hydroponics solution or as a conventional organic
fertilizer.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 00:21
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Biogas Digester
Whatever one might think of Chairperson Mao, his Seven Characters,
rules for agriculture, were pretty good. One
Sirs,
It may not be feasible to simultaneously utilise the heat of
composting and the methane.
Composting is an AEROBIC process while methane production is ANAEROBIC.
Different groups of bacteria which are entirely different are
resposible for the processes.
No utilisable heat is evolved in
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seem to remember a process that digester effluent/sludge is mixed
with
aspen chips and then allowed to compost, the result being marketed
as an
artificial peat from renewable recourses.
Of course I could just be
OK, I'll try again
I'm interested in a WVO conversion and found these two sites:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html
http://www.shortcircuit.com.au/warfa/paper/paper.htm
I've also found the veggievan.org and some companies that build SVO/WVO
conversions for cars/trucks but
- Original Message -
From: Neil McAnally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm real new to this (biodiesel); just making small batches to run in the
Rabbit.
I picked up about 4 gallons of WVO today, it's liquid at 50d.F, but very
murky, almost like it has mud in it.
What's the preferred
Which dual fuel switch from Australia?
Try this:
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/technical/tz_fuel.htm
Andre Shoumatoff, Park City UT
http://www.cisautoweb.com
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I didn't see a switch at that link. Just a double neck filler tube.
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- Original Message -
From: Andre Shoumatoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
If you look at the picture, there is a metal rod attached to the unit that goes
to the box where the fuel is diverted. That is the switch -- pull it out
and it fills one tank, push it in and if fills the other. Pretty neat, I think.
Andre
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Aaah...I got it! I was thinking electric fuel tank selection switch.
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- Original Message -
From: Andre Shoumatoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
the difference is you can pump oil out of the ground, not hydrogen.
Steve Spence
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- Original Message -
From: Curtis Sakima
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:18:22 -0400, you wrote:
the difference is you can pump oil out of the ground, not hydrogen.
That is one of many differences yes.
A similarity, as Curtis was attempting to point out, is the use of circular or
other false
or over-simplified reasoning to stop (or: attempt
I believe it was Amory Lovins who pointed out (and continually
does so) that if all the buildings in the US were adequately
insulated and weatherized (to be read adequately, not
super-), the US would or could be free of all imported fuels.
Gee...I wonder what could be done if that were coupled
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