Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-07 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Err...not sure where all that's coming from. I'll tell you why hydro's the way for me, since apparently it's so horrible or whatever. My yard is entirely surrounded on all sides by overhead vegitation. No portion of my yard gets more than 2-3 hours of direct sun a day, so hydro lets me use my

[Biofuel] Gregory Bateson, was Re: New EPA Rules

2006-04-07 Thread dwoodard
Gregory Bateson was an anthropologist who was at one time married to Margaret Mead; he worked in Bali. He was also involved in cybernetics in its early days, and in research on schizophrenia (the double bind hypthesis). He also did some work with dolphins. One smart man. His father William was a

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-07 Thread Chris Fletcher
Hi You might want to think about investigating permaculture. We have a smallholding in Scotland which I bought recently, it has been farmed mostly for livestock. The previous owners had a veg garden and kept pigs. We have already started planning and developing the site using permaculture

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu

2006-04-07 Thread Chip Mefford
Gary L. Green wrote: No, the 3rd one is not met or at least I don't think so. It is NOT spreading easily. If it were there would have been 10's of thousands of deaths by now, not just a few hundred. Okay, Let's go back, and see if we can quote me IN CONTEXT; I SAID: The WHO (who could

Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-07 Thread Appal Energy
the dirt method involves removing additional topsoil from some other location, bringing it where he lives, and replacing it/fertilizing it every year and/or discarding it. Say what? I believe they call the addition of carbonaceous material amending. Some of us just call it adding compost.

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
Missed that last line.Please type slower in the future.  I'm getting old. ;-DGaryOn  07Apr, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Chip Mefford wrote:In the case of H5N1, 2 of the three criteria are met, and the potential for the 3rd exists. Did you read my post? ___

Re: [Biofuel] David Ray Griffin speaks on facts of 9/11.

2006-04-07 Thread Michael Redler
Dude! I had no idea!...maybe great minds think alike.:-)Mike "Gary L. Green" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey! Have you been snooping around my computer? How did you know that?I feel so . ordinary.On 6 Apr 2006, at 20:48, Michael Redler wrote: can be found in the "favorites" folder

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu

2006-04-07 Thread Chip Mefford
Gary L. Green wrote: Missed that last line. Please type slower in the future. I'm getting old. ;-D Gary Ain't we all brother, Ain't we all. Take care, --chipper ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu

2006-04-07 Thread Michael Redler
While I was in Switzerland, there was a news report of wild birds (swans, I think) turning up dead. I'm frustrated becauseI couldn't determine if theydied froma strain of the flu (it was in dialect and my German isn't perfect).There is a serious effort to fight the bird flu out there and a

[Biofuel] Global Warming

2006-04-07 Thread Randall
Here is an interesting article on the BBC website...kinda helps reinforce the "...damned if you do, damned if you don't..." feeling a lot of people have... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4880328.stm --Randall Charlotte, NC

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Robert Ok, it's not exactly earth shattering, But it IS exactly earth-shattering. :-) Down to the gravel dust (lots of minerals), an earth-shattering rototiller, worms that shatter bits of rock in their gut to help grind up the other stuff for the microbugs to eat and mineralising it at

Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Dear oh dear. Well, let's dump all the dross about where it's coming from, whether it's so horrible, getting offended and reading stuff into what people say. That last sure seems to be what you're doing. I didn't assume anything, I just said what I thought about hydroponics. If you've got

[Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Joe Street
I am going to commune with the Pacific and will be away from April 8-24th so I'm suspending email delivery from this list. However if anyone wants to email me they can still get to my mailbox directly. Cheers all. I'll have a beer for each and every one of you LOL :-s Joe

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread ROY Washbish
Have a wonderful trip Joe. Have two beers for me :-) RoyJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to commune with the Pacific and will be away from April 8-24th so I'm suspending email delivery from this list. However if anyone wants to email me they can still get to my mailbox

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Michael Redler
Yea. Me too!Dude, that's a lot of beer.:-)MikeROY Washbish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Have a wonderful trip Joe. Have two beers for me :-) RoyJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to commune with the Pacific and will be away from April 8-24th so I'm suspending email

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-07 Thread Michael Redler
Yes! Yes! Yes!...where's my Uncle Sam suit?!Seriously,the return toa healthy counter-culture would be a really good thing (not that I remember the sixties).There are a few, less noticeable signs ofa government with too much power, bent on bringing "order" to the world and how it's

Re: [Biofuel] David Ray Griffin speaks on facts of 9/11.

2006-04-07 Thread I. S.
How to sort out information from disinformation? Important issue for anyone trying to work off web sites - but also important for everyone, everywhere. How do you know whether any claim is true or not? What if you base your start-up sustainable biofuel business on poor information and bad

Re: [Biofuel] Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu

2006-04-07 Thread I. S.
Well, I don't think it's a hoax in terms of the danger to poultry - this could wipe out a large section of agriculture; there's no doubt about that. However, the jump to humans, and then to human-human transmission, is a lot less clear; it could have happened 20 years ago, or it could happen 20

Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-07 Thread I. S.
There really is a range of options available; the main thing is to adapt to your own unique circumstances while using as little energy and material as possible. I like the idea of the guy growing in an urban wasteland - real urban renewal, that is. With drip tubing and very well aerated soil

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Pollution: Where have all the baby boysgone?

2006-04-07 Thread I. S.
Ummm.. China? --- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4) Girls are more intelligent Then why do they hang out with men? ;-) Hakan Falk wrote: Steve, Well, you know that, 1) Girls live longer than men and are physically superior, except for muscle power (might be a training

Re: [Biofuel] the end of big biodiesel?

2006-04-07 Thread I. S.
Catalytic Cracker is a term from the petroleum refining business; it is the reason that a barrel of black gunk can be turned into short-chain gasoline hydrocarbons; they rely on an inert solid-state catalyst to 'crack' the gooey long-chain hydrocarbons into shorter molecules. (Those big tower in

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Donald Rumsfeld Rakes in $5 Million For Tamiflu

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
On  07Apr, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Michael Redler wrote:here is a serious effort to fight the bird flu out there and a belief that wild birds are spreading it. This seems to be a contradiction to the report we discussed earlier that wild birds are not as much the problem as factory farms. This doesn't

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Uh, Yeah. Dude. We had all these great ideas, then we got really stoned and it drifted away. Then it was the 80's. Bummer Michael Redler wrote: Yes! Yes! Yes! ...where's my Uncle Sam suit?! Seriously, the return to a healthy counter-culture would be a really good thing (not that I

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
Only if it's good microbrewery beer or an authentic Belgian style beer.If it's Amerikan corporate corn and rice fermented chemical soup, please not one in my name.GaryOn  08Apr, 2006, at 2:43 AM, Joe Street wrote:Cheers all. I'll have a beer for each and every one of you LOL :-s

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: More Gardening News

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
"Consume for Victory"On  08Apr, 2006, at 2:49 AM, Keith Addison wrote:I'm sure it's that too. Do you think "Dig for Victory!" is out of  date now, shouldn't it be "No-Dig for Victory!"? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Mike Weaver
I demand Budweiser. 'Merika Gary L. Green wrote: Only if it's good microbrewery beer or an authentic Belgian style beer. If it's Amerikan corporate corn and rice fermented chemical soup, please not one in my name. Gary On 08Apr, 2006, at 2:43 AM, Joe Street wrote: Cheers all. I'll

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Pollution: Where have all the baby boysgone?

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
That's WHY not WHERE.The answer to Where is Bangkok.On  08Apr, 2006, at 7:23 AM, I. S. wrote:Ummm.. China? --- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4) Girls are more intelligent Then why do they hang out with men? ;-) ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
Disco yuck.Being stoned is good though.  That's why god invented Amsterdam and British Columbia.On  08Apr, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote:We had all these great ideas, then we got really stoned and it drifted away. Then it was the 80's. Bummer

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
I demand Budvar, not the rip-off Amerikan version. On 08Apr, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: I demand Budweiser. 'Merika Gary L. Green wrote: Only if it's good microbrewery beer or an authentic Belgian style beer. If it's Amerikan corporate corn and rice fermented chemical

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: David Ray Griffin speaks on facts of 9/11.

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
Okay fine but just because someone doesn't buy the party line doesn't make them a nutcase.Do buildings really implode inwards on their own?  If so, then what about all these highly skilled blasters?  Are they lying?What about the aircraft debris at the Pentagon "attack"?  Not so much as a seat

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Mike Weaver
I believe that's Czech for strong beer Gary L. Green wrote: I demand Budvar, not the rip-off Amerikan version. On 08Apr, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: I demand Budweiser. 'Merika Gary L. Green wrote: Only if it's good microbrewery beer or an authentic Belgian style

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Gary L. Green
Dang Checks... why can't they learn ta speek inglish like the rest of the world? They make some good beer though. I guess the proper name is Budweiser Budvar to diff it from the cruddy stuff. On 8 Apr 2006, at 08:53, Mike Weaver wrote: I believe that's Czech for strong beer Gary L.

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hey Joe, me thre please dont get lost there Fritz - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery Yea. Me too! Dude, that's a lot of beer.

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Gary, i am not shure of the Belgian beer,but bavarian beer is brewed under the "Reinheitsgebot" a law AD 1716 by the bavarian Duch and falsly called the "German Purity Law" since it did apply in the begin only to Bavaria! And it calls: Beer should only be brewed with Barley,Hops and

[Biofuel] Using Pex?

2006-04-07 Thread WM LUKE MATHISEN
I have some PEX tubing left over from plumbing our house, any one with experience using PEX to build a processor? Will the lye react to it? I am thinking of using it to heat the processor from our tankless waterheater which we use to heat the floor, as well as for mixing. Also will a washing

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Mike, Budweiser is mainly brewed with Reis and therefore Bananabeer and not suitable for humenconsumtion Fritz Rice adds to global warming and should only feed the hungry - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday,

[Biofuel] Unidentified Beer was Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Appal Energy
Anyone familiar with a European pilsner that is uncarbonated out of the bottle, at least until a slice of lemon is thrown into the bottom of the glass and it's poured in? Bumped into it a decade ago. Haven't seen it since and can't remember the name. Todd Swearingen Gary L. Green wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] David Ray Griffin speaks on facts of 9/11.

2006-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Peter How to sort out information from disinformation? Yes, the problem. Here we are in the midst of the dawning Age of Information and just about nobody knows how to sort t'other from which. Lots of people think they do though. In some cases at least, the more confident they are about

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
On 08Apr, 2006, at 2:43 AM, Joe Street wrote: Cheers all. I'll have a beer for each and every one of you LOL :-s Joe, if you're still there, have a great time - if you're going hang gliding again try not to fall into the Pacific, it's not made of beer. (Not even Budnonethewiser.) All

Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Peter There really is a range of options available; the main thing is to adapt to your own unique circumstances while using as little energy and material as possible. I like the idea of the guy growing in an urban wasteland - real urban renewal, that is. Urban wastelands the world over are