Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Garth Kim Travis wrote: H Kim, I'm looking more for control of very small patches. I use a whacker mostly, but a few places need a squirt. I can't imagine it would be more than an ounce or so. Greetings, Concentrated vinegar, sprayed on a hot sunny day will kill post emergent weeds, if it does not rain within the next few days. It will also kill any earthworms it comes in contact with. If used too much, it will also affect the ph of your soil and harm some of the bacteria, but the effect is not lasting beyond the next good rain. Bright Blessings, Kim At 04:09 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US's so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Greetings, Yes, plain store bought vinegar doesn't kill much but the 20% vinegar that is 4 times stronger can really work well in the proper conditions. Bright Blessings, Kim At 10:35 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, not much effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (four liters) size from the discount grocery store, plain white vinegar. Joe --- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US's so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by volume.
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Where would one get it? If I try to make I always seems to get vinegar worms... Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, Yes, plain store bought vinegar doesn't kill much but the 20% vinegar that is 4 times stronger can really work well in the proper conditions. Bright Blessings, Kim At 10:35 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, not much effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (four liters) size from the discount grocery store, plain white vinegar. Joe --- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US's so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Greetings, I buy mine at the feed store. There is a web site, but I lost it in the last crash, it will tell you the nearest retailer in the US and Canada. Bright Blessings, Kim At 06:05 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Where would one get it? If I try to make I always seems to get vinegar worms... Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, Yes, plain store bought vinegar doesn't kill much but the 20% vinegar that is 4 times stronger can really work well in the proper conditions. Bright Blessings, Kim At 10:35 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, not much effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (four liters) size from the discount grocery store, plain white vinegar. Joe --- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US's so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Hi All, Just a quick note from the microbiologist running around my head. If you are using concentrated vinegar as weed killer be careful at what time of year you use it. Fall and winter is the best time. Soil bacterial love acetate ion as a source of food. Your basically adding a lot of degradable carbon to the soil. This will cause a large increase in bacteria which will tie up large amounts of nitrogen and some phosphorus making it temporarily unavailable to plants for growth. It might not just be the low pH that is killing the weeds. Tom Irwin From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:19:38 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking RoundupGreetings,I buy mine at the feed store. There is a web site, but I lost it in the last crash, it will tell you the nearest retailer in the US and Canada.Bright Blessings,KimAt 06:05 AM 8/9/2005, you wrote:Where would one get it? If I try to make I always seems toget vinegar worms...Garth Kim Travis wrote:Greetings,Yes, plain store bought vinegar doesn't kill much but the 20% vinegar that is 4 times stronger can really work well in the proper conditions.Bright Blessings,KimAt 10:35 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote:Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, notmuch effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (fourliters) size from the discount grocery store, plainwhite vinegar.Joe--- Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -MikeMichael Redler wrote:More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US's so-called "drugs war" in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or "Roundup." It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate "invasive" plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the "War on Drugs," sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as "Coke" or "Cocaine." [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: "Pesticide Action Network North America" Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
More on Roundup and Monsanto: Drugs war in Columbia - the true costThe true cost of the USs so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsantos Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html MonsantoA brief introduction to the Monsanto CorporationMonsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who playsthe PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic.Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or "Roundup." It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate "invasive" plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the "War on Drugs," sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as "Coke" or "Cocaine." [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMTFrom: "Pesticide Action Network North America" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking RoundupRethinking RoundupAugust 5, 2005A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts.Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as "inerts") designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as "active ingredients" the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by volume.The evidence presented in the recent study is supported by earlier laboratory studies connecting glyphosate with reproductive harm, including damaged DNA in mice and abnormal chromosomes in human blood. Evidence from epidemiological studies has also linked exposure to the herbicide with increased risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, and laboratory studies have now begun to hone in on the mechanism by which the chemical acts on cell division to cause cancer. A Canadian study has linked glyphosate exposure in the three months before conception with increased risk for miscarriage and a 2002 study in Minnesota connected glyphosate exposure in farm families with increased incidence of attention deficit disorder.Studies have also documented glyphosate's toxicity to wildlife and especially to amphibians. Recently, studies conducted in small ponds with a variety of aquatic populations have presented evidence that levels of glyphosate currently applied can be highly lethal to many species of amphibians.Glyphosate is the
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US’s so-called “drugs war” in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto’s Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by volume. The evidence presented in the recent study is supported by earlier laboratory studies connecting glyphosate with reproductive harm, including damaged DNA in mice and abnormal chromosomes in human blood. Evidence from epidemiological studies has also linked exposure to the herbicide with increased risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, and laboratory studies have now begun to hone in on the mechanism by which the chemical acts on cell division to cause cancer. A Canadian study has linked glyphosate exposure in the three months before conception with increased risk for
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Sorry Mike. I can't help you decide what to do with it. However, I remember threads on this list that talk about very effective, natural solutions in the garden. Does anyone remember? Mike Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal?Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds?I had no idea it was so deadly.-Mike___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Hi All, Let me thank everyone involved for the information on these companies. If you think this is doing little good think again. I used the material here with a bit of filtering to teach my Environmental Science class today. The more folks who get the word out the fewer customers Monsanto and others will have. My opinion is don´t buy a dime´s worth of stock from this company or any like it. Get this information out and educate the public. Don´t buy GM products either. Buy local and buy organic. The only place to hurt a mindless, souless, heartless corporation is on its balance sheet. It´s the only thing this entity cares about and its the only way to stop it. Tom Irwin From: Mike Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:09:18 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking RoundupArrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal?Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds?I had no idea it was so deadly.-MikeMichael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US’s so-called “drugs war” in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto’s Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or "Roundup." It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate "invasive" plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the "War on Drugs," sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as "Coke" or "Cocaine." [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: "Pesticide Action Network North America" Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as "inerts") designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as "active ingredients" the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Hi Mike, If you´re in the U.S. you can drop it off at your local household hazardous waste collection site. Call and see how much they will accept. You might have to transfer it into four 1 liter containers so you don´t have to pay for disposal. They usually take this stuff to a cement kiln and burn it at very high temperatures or if you´re lucky to a hazardous waste incinerator. Tom Irwin From: Mike Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:09:18 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking RoundupArrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal?Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds?I had no idea it was so deadly.-MikeMichael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US’s so-called “drugs war” in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto’s Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or "Roundup." It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate "invasive" plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the "War on Drugs," sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as "Coke" or "Cocaine." [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: "Pesticide Action Network North America" Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as "inerts") designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as "active ingredients" the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by volume. The evidence presented in the recent study is supported by earlier laboratory studies connecting glyphosate with reproductive harm, including damaged DNA in
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Greetings, Concentrated vinegar, sprayed on a hot sunny day will kill post emergent weeds, if it does not rain within the next few days. It will also kill any earthworms it comes in contact with. If used too much, it will also affect the ph of your soil and harm some of the bacteria, but the effect is not lasting beyond the next good rain. Bright Blessings, Kim At 04:09 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the US's so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by volume. The evidence presented in the recent study is supported by earlier laboratory studies connecting glyphosate with reproductive harm, including damaged DNA in mice and abnormal chromosomes in human
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Right-on Tom! This is the kind of encouragementthat I REALLY like to see. "But, as men cannot engender new forces, but only unite and direct existing ones, they have no other means of preserving themselves than the formation, by aggregation, of a sum of forces great enough to overcome the resistance. These they have to bring into play by means of a single motive power, and cause to act in concert." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Let me thank everyone involved for the information on these companies. If you think this is doing little good think again. I used the material here with a bit of filtering to teach my Environmental Science class today. The more folks who get the word out the fewer customers Monsanto and others will have. My opinion is don´t buy a dime´s worth of stock from this company or any like it. Get this information out and educate the public. Don´t buy GM products either. Buy local and buy organic. The only place to hurt a mindless, souless, heartless corporation is on its balance sheet. It´s the only thing this entity cares about and its the only way to stop it. Tom Irwin___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, not much effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (four liters) size from the discount grocery store, plain white vinegar. Joe --- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal? Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to control weeds? I had no idea it was so deadly. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: More on Roundup and Monsanto: *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost *The true cost of the USs so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass spraying of Monsantos Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides. [more] http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html *Monsanto A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation* Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A company who plays the PR game so well that many of the people who consume their products have never even heard of them, they were responsible for manufacturing Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which the U.S. military sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also American GI's) in the 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large amounts of the deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned worldwide and is still affecting the Vietnamese people two generations later. It is also largely believed to be the main cause for many of the illnesses associated with soldiers returning home from Vietnam. From 1962 to 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of herbicides, mostly Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese civilians and over 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years of the close of the war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for disabilities caused by Agent Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709, saying that a facial rash was the only disease associated with exposure. In 2002, Vietnam requested assistance in dealing with the tens of thousands of birth defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid medical compensation expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now banned chemical is not toxic. Monsanto's most commonly used product on the market today is glyphosate, or Roundup. It is a similarly deadly defoliant that is used to eradicate invasive plants around telephone poles, on sidewalks and farms all over the world and most commonly within the US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the United States military, who under the guise of the War on Drugs, sprays the defoliant from helicopters in and around small villages in the sovereign country of Columbia in South America, claiming to be targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly stimulating plant which is the main ingredient in the production of Cocaine Hydrochloride, commonly known by Americans as Coke or Cocaine. [more] http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html */Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT From: Pesticide Action Network North America Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup Rethinking Roundup August 5, 2005 A recent study of Roundup presents new evidence that the glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic than the active ingredient alone. The study, published in the June 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, reports glyphosate toxicity to human placental cells within hours of exposure, at levels ten times lower than those found in agricultural use. The researchers also tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower concentrations for effects on sexual hormones, reporting effects at very low levels. This suggests that dilution with other ingredients in Roundup may, in fact, facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts. Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture of glyphosate and other chemicals (commonly referred to as inerts) designed to increase the herbicide's penetration into the target and its toxic effect. Since inerts are not listed as active ingredients the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not assess their health or environmental impacts, despite the fact that more than 300 chemicals on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients are or were once registered as pesticide active ingredients, and that inert ingredients often account for more than 50% of the pesticide product by volume. The evidence presented in the recent study is supported by earlier laboratory studies connecting glyphosate with reproductive harm, including damaged DNA
