Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, not
much effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (four
liters) size from the discount grocery store, plain
white vinegar.
Joe
--- Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get
> rid of a gallon of
> that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before
> disposal?
> Also, does anyone have any ideas on using
> concentrated vinegar to
> control weeds?
>
> I had no idea it was so deadly.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> Michael Redler wrote:
>
> > More on Roundup and Monsanto:
> > *Drugs war in Columbia - the true cost
> > *The true cost of the US's so-called "drugs war"
> in Columbia (see
> > Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There
> have now been 4,000
> > human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious
> skin, eye,
> > respiratory and digestive problems due to the mass
> spraying of
> > Monsanto's Roundup and Roundup Ultra herbicides.
> > [more]
> > http://www.ehn.clara.net/pesticides.html
> > *Monsanto
> > A brief introduction to the Monsanto Corporation*
> > Monsanto is a humanitarian's worst nightmare. A
> company who plays
> > the PR game so well that many of the people who
> consume their products
> > have never even heard of them, they were
> responsible for manufacturing
> > Agent Orange, the extremely toxic defoliant which
> the U.S. military
> > sprayed all over Vietnam (and consequently, also
> American GI's) in the
> > 60s and 70's. Agent Orange, which contained large
> amounts of the
> > deadly chemical Dioxin, has now been banned
> worldwide and is still
> > affecting the Vietnamese people two generations
> later. It is also
> > largely believed to be the main cause for many of
> the illnesses
> > associated with soldiers returning home from
> Vietnam. From 1962 to
> > 1970, the US military sprayed 72 million liters of
> herbicides, mostly
> > Agent Orange, on over one million Vietnamese
> civilians and over
> > 100,000 U.S. troops. As a result, within ten years
> of the close of the
> > war, 9,170 veterans had filed claims for
> disabilities caused by Agent
> > Orange. The VA denied compensation to 7,709,
> saying that a facial rash
> > was the only disease associated with exposure. In
> 2002, Vietnam
> > requested assistance in dealing with the tens of
> thousands of birth
> > defects due to Agent Orange. In order to avoid
> medical compensation
> > expenses, Monsanto continues to claim this now
> banned chemical is not
> > toxic.
> > Monsanto's most commonly used product on the
> market today is
> > glyphosate, or "Roundup." It is a similarly deadly
> defoliant that is
> > used to eradicate "invasive" plants around
> telephone poles, on
> > sidewalks and farms all over the world and most
> commonly within the
> > US. One of the major consumers of Roundup is the
> United States
> > military, who under the guise of the "War on
> Drugs," sprays the
> > defoliant from helicopters in and around small
> villages in the
> > sovereign country of Columbia in South America,
> claiming to be
> > targeting coca plantation. Coca is the mildly
> stimulating plant which
> > is the main ingredient in the production of
> Cocaine Hydrochloride,
> > commonly known by Americans as "Coke" or
> "Cocaine."
> > [more]
> > http://www.thehumanrevolution.org/monsanto.html
> >
> > */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/*
> wrote:
> >
> > >Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:23:57 GMT
> > >From: "Pesticide Action Network North
> America"
> > >Subject: PANUPS: Rethinking Roundup
> > >
> > >Rethinking Roundup
> > >August 5, 2005
> > >
> > >A recent study of Roundup presents new
> evidence that the
> > >glyphosate-based herbicide is far more toxic
> than the active
> > >ingredient alone. The study, published in the
> June 2005 issue of
> > >Environmental Health Perspectives, reports
> glyphosate toxicity to
> > >human placental cells within hours of
> exposure, at levels ten times
> > >lower than those found in agricultural use.
> The researchers also
> > >tested glyphosate and Roundup at lower
> concentrations for effects on
> > >sexual hormones, reporting effects at very
> low levels. This suggests
> > >that dilution with other ingredients in
> Roundup may, in fact,
> > >facilitate glyphosate's hormonal impacts.
> > >
> > >Roundup, produced by Monsanto, is a mixture
> of glyphosate and other
> > >chemicals (commonly referred to as "inerts")
> designed to increase
> > >the herbicide's penetration into the target
> and its toxic effect.
> > >Since inerts are not listed as "active
> ingredients" the U.S.
> > >Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)does not
> assess their health or
> > >environmental impacts, despite the fact that
> more than 300 chemicals
> > >on EPA's list of pesticide inert ingredients
> are or were once
> > >registered as pesticide active ingredients,
> and that inert
> > >ingredients often account for more than 50%
> of the pesticide product
> > >by volume.
> > >
> > >The evidence presented in the recent study is
> supported by earlier
> > >laboratory studies connecting glyphosate with
> reproductive harm,
> > >including damaged DNA in mice and abnormal
> chromosomes in human
> > >blood. Evidence from epidemiological studies
> has also linked
> > >exposure to the herbicide with increased risk
> of non-Hodgkin's
> > >lymphoma, and laboratory studies have now
> begun to hone in on the
> > >mechanism by which the chemical acts on cell
> division to cause
> > >cancer. A Canadian study has linked
> glyphosate exposure in the three
> > >months before conception with increased risk
> for miscarriage and a
> > >2002 study in Minnesota connected glyphosate
> exposure in farm
> > >families with increased incidence of
> attention deficit disorder.
> > >
> > >Studies have also documented glyphosate's
> toxicity to wildlife and
> > >especially to amphibians. Recently, studies
> conducted in small ponds
> > >with a variety of aquatic populations have
> presented evidence that
> > >levels of glyphosate currently applied can be
> highly lethal to many
> > >species of amphibians.
> > >
> > >Glyphosate is the world's most commonly used
> agricultural pesticide,
> > >and the second most-applied residential
> pesticide in the U.S. Recent
> > >evidence notwithstanding, glyphosate is
> considered less hazardous
> > >than other herbicides, an attitude that has
> increased the
> > >pesticide's use and desensitized policymakers
> to its impacts. The
> > >spraying program in Colombia to eradicate
> coca and opium poppy-the
> > >raw materials for cocaine and heroin-is one
> example. A mixture of
> > >glyphosate and several inerts has been
> sprayed aerially over more
> > >than 1.3 million acres of farm, range and
> forest lands in that
> > >biologically diverse nation for five years.
> The U.S. Drug Czar
> > >recently noted that despite the spraying,
> which is funded by the
> > >U.S. government, the number of hectares in
> coca production has
> > >remained essentially unchanged. A report on
> the impacts of the
> > >spraying produced for the Organization of
> American States has been
> > >sharply criticized by AIDA, an environmental
> organization, because
> > >the analysis failed to assess the impacts of
> deforestation resulting
> > >from movement of illicit crops into
> previously forested areas,
> > >adverse effects on endangered and endemic
> species, substantial
> > >collateral loss of food crops, livestock and
> fish, and human health
> > >effects. Authorization of next year's funding
> for the spray program
> > >is now underway in the U.S. Congress, where
> the Senate
> > >Appropriations Committee complained in a
> non-binding narrative
> > >report, "The Committee is increasingly
> concerned ... that the aerial
> > >eradication program is falling far short of
> predictions and that
> > >coca cultivation is shifting to new
> locations."
> > >
> > >The herbicide is used in forestry in North
> America to reduce
> > >grasses, shrubs and trees that compete with
> commercial timber trees.
> > >Glyphosate is also widely introduced into the
> environment and the
> > >human food chain through cultivation of
> transgenic, or genetically
> > >engineered crops that are tolerant to the
> herbicide and contain
> > >glyphosate residues. "Roundup Ready" crops
> have been responsible for
> > >increased use of the herbicide in recent
> years. Monsanto's sales of
> > >glyphosate have expanded approximately 20%
> each year through the
> > >1990s, accounting for 67% of the company's
> total sales as of 200l.
> > >EPA estimates glyphosate use in the U.S. is
> 103-113 million pounds
> > >annually.
> > >
> > >Sources: Sophie Richard, Safa Moslemi,
> Herbert Sipahutar, Nora
> > >Benachour, and Gilles-Eric Seralini,
> Environmental Health
> > >Perspectives, Vol. 113, No. 6 June 2005,
> > >http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2005
> > >/7728/7728.html; Glyphosate Herbicide Fact
> Sheet, Journal of
> > >Pesticide Reform, Winter 2004, Vol. 24, No.
> 4, Northwest Coalition
> > >for Alternatives to Pesticides NCAP,
> > >http://www.pesticide.org;
> > >Rethinking Plan Colombia, New Science on
> Roundup: Threats to Human
> > >Health land Wildlife, Las Lianas, June 2005,
> > >http://www.laslianas.org/Colombia/Rou
> > >ndupFactSheet--June2005.doc; Critical
> Omissions in the CICAD
> > >Environmental and Health Assessment of the
> Aerial Eradication
> > >Program in Colombia, Interamerican
> Association for Environmental
> > >Defense (AIDA); The Center for International
> Policy's Colombia
> > >program, Relevant Text from the Bills So Far,
> the 2006 Aid Request,
> > >http://ciponline.org/colombia/aid06.h
> > >tm#Senate; PANNA, Monsanto Corporate Fact
> Sheet; PANNA, Global
> > >Pesticide Campaigner, Inert Ingredients in
> Pesticides, Sept. 1998.
> >
> >
> >
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