Hi Andrew,
This is what I was asking of Keith a few weeks (months) ago. He indicated
that it would be almost impossible to maintain due to price flucuations
within the market. Prices across the board are very different at present
as there is no futures market for biodiesel (yet!!). Also, since the
product can be produced with different feedstocks and the prices
associated with those, distribution costs, brokering costs, etc
As you can see it can be a daunting task. I think if all you wanted was a
baseline for general BD costs in various areas, that would be fine. If
your trying to define a business plan on some hard numbers it might be
more difficult.
Comparing the cost of Dino Diesel(DD) to BD is not really productive since
the product DD is a fairly well known process and most of the manufactures
do it in a similar way. BD on the other had as explained above has some
wildly varying price points. Another thing that will inhibit a cross
comparision is that DD is subsidized and BD is not. Here is an
example; over the weekend I was helping to make fuel at the Berkley
Biodiesel Co-op and was talking to a person who lives in SF on how much he
pays for his BD. He indicated that it was over $3 a gallon!! I was
supprised that it was so much, but when one compares this unsubsidized
price to the subsidized price of DD (~$1.50 - $1.85 depending on where one
lives), it doesn't look half bad. Somewhere it was noted that the
true price for a gallon of gas was ~$18. Of course we don't see that
true cost as we pay for it in our taxes.
I still think that your pricing project is noble and can only benefit
all. :)
James Slayden
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Andrew Hoppin wrote:
If anyone does pull together a list of BD prices at pumps around the US
or
around the world, I'll volunteer to put it all on a color-coded (by
price)
map for everyone so that we can get a big picture view of where BD is
currently competitive price-wise... It would help greatly if the cost of
fossil diesel at the same pumps were also collected at the same time, so
that we can compare.
For the US, NBB has a partial list of public pumps, petroleum
distributors
that sell it, and direct BD suppliers, complete with phone numbers to
contact them all and inquire about their prices...
www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/
Cheers,
Andrew
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:23:46 -0800
From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Hey Keith,
On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices
around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned
reciept or picture of the pump though. It would help people to decide
if
they want to buy or produce themselves based just on pump cost.
It might also help if BD were traded on one or more of the major
exchanges. At least, in my view.
MM
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