Hi Andrew, This is what I was asking of Keith a few weeks (months) ago. He indicated that it would be almost impossible to maintain due to price flucuations within the market. Prices across the board are very different at present as there is no futures market for biodiesel (yet!!). Also, since the product can be produced with different feedstocks and the prices associated with those, distribution costs, brokering costs, etc ....
As you can see it can be a daunting task. I think if all you wanted was a baseline for "general" BD costs in various areas, that would be fine. If your trying to define a business plan on some hard numbers it might be more difficult. Comparing the cost of Dino Diesel(DD) to BD is not really productive since the product DD is a fairly well known process and most of the manufactures do it in a similar way. BD on the other had as explained above has some wildly varying price points. Another thing that will inhibit a cross comparision is that DD is subsidized and BD is not. Here is an example; over the weekend I was helping to make fuel at the Berkley Biodiesel Co-op and was talking to a person who lives in SF on how much he pays for his BD. He indicated that it was over $3 a gallon!! I was supprised that it was so much, but when one compares this unsubsidized price to the subsidized price of DD (~$1.50 - $1.85 depending on where one lives), it doesn't look half bad. Somewhere it was noted that the "true" price for a gallon of gas was ~$18. Of course we don't see that true cost as we pay for it in our taxes. I still think that your pricing project is noble and can only benefit all. :) James Slayden On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Andrew Hoppin wrote: > If anyone does pull together a list of BD prices at pumps around the US > or > around the world, I'll volunteer to put it all on a color-coded (by > price) > map for everyone so that we can get a big picture view of where BD is > currently competitive price-wise... It would help greatly if the cost of > fossil diesel at the same pumps were also collected at the same time, so > that we can compare. > > For the US, NBB has a partial list of public pumps, petroleum > distributors > that sell it, and direct BD suppliers, complete with phone numbers to > contact them all and inquire about their prices... > www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/ > > Cheers, > Andrew > > N Space Labs, Inc. > www.NSpaceLabs.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 212.219.0851 (office) > 646.221.5602 (mobile) > 594 Broadway, #611 > NY, NY 10012 > ---------------------------------------------------- > The Biofuel Business Development Project > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ > Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact > On the Long-Range Future of Humanity > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:23:46 -0800 > From: murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?! > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > >Hey Keith, > > > >On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices > >around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned > >reciept or picture of the pump though. It would help people to decide > if > >they want to buy or produce themselves based just on pump cost. > > It might also help if BD were traded on one or more of the major > exchanges. At least, in my view. > > MM > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
