RE: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1
Okay, I thought most people knew the answers to these questions. Here's what you're looking for. (1) The first adventure game with text + graphics was Mystery House. All adventure games before Mystery House were purely text. http://www.xyzzynews.com/xyzzy.7f.html (2) The King's Quest series and all other subsequent Sierra adventures were based on the Mystery House text + graphics formula with the addition of being able to control your character. Even back when King's Quest was released, most games were still text + graphics but without character control. (3) Your question Was King's Quest 1 really the first quasi-3D adventure game released for the IBM line? The answer: King's Quest 1 was the first GAME ever released for the new IBM PC back in 1984. The release date on MobyGames is incorrect -- that's the release date for the remake. If you want more info on this: http://www.adventurecollective.com/reviews/kq1.htm - John -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1 Sure, I wouldn't call it 3D either, but I would call it quasi-3D, which is why I asked for a definition (since the default definition would be almost but not quite 3D). One could argue that true 3D is not possible on a 2D monitor. While I'm on the topic, I'll assert that Atari's arcade version of Night Driver was the first ever quasi-3D videogame (released in October 1976). It was the first to approximate a 3D perspective. Sorry, just being difficult :-) Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1 Hugh Falk wrote: Well, how do you define quasi-3D adventure? You could say that Mystery House, the first adventure with graphics, was also the first quasi-3D. Since the graphics had a 3D perspective (See attached). I wouldn't call that 3D -- it's interactive fiction with graphics drawn in a 3D perspective. To contrast, the Quest games let you move something in front of or behind another on-screen object, so that qualifies more as 3D than Mystery House. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 03:09 PM, John Romero wrote: [Snip] (3) Your question Was King's Quest 1 really the first quasi-3D adventure game released for the IBM line? The answer: King's Quest 1 was the first GAME ever released for the new IBM PC back in 1984. The release date on MobyGames is incorrect -- that's the release date for the remake. Don't you mean the IBM PCjr? ;-) The IBM PC was released in August 1981. The first game for _that_ was Microsoft Adventure according to Dan Bricklin. http://www.bricklin.com/ibmpcannouncement1981.htm -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1
(1) The first adventure game with text + graphics was Mystery House. All adventure games before Mystery House were purely text. http://www.xyzzynews.com/xyzzy.7f.html Don't put too much stock in anything in XYZZYnews... I'm the one who wrote this, back when I was first getting into game collecting and history. It's based on what I'd learned from numerous (popular) opinions, and I found nothing to contradict it at the time, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an obscure, forgotten graphical adventure game a few months/days before that. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1
To add some validation however, this fact has been published by many soruces, including books, by Sierra itself, and in an article I worte for C|net (for what that's worth). And nobody has publicly stood up to dispute it yet. Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] King's Quest 1 (1) The first adventure game with text + graphics was Mystery House. All adventure games before Mystery House were purely text. http://www.xyzzynews.com/xyzzy.7f.html Don't put too much stock in anything in XYZZYnews... I'm the one who wrote this, back when I was first getting into game collecting and history. It's based on what I'd learned from numerous (popular) opinions, and I found nothing to contradict it at the time, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an obscure, forgotten graphical adventure game a few months/days before that. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
