Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Hugh Falk wrote: Since I'm asking questions: My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 - 1988 (depending on where you look). Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986? Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88? I think 88. I bought mine in 1988, but I have the IBM PC version. Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86. So I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release. Tom (or anybody), what is the copyright on yours? Starflight 1988 standard box is not only a re-release, it is the coveted EGA version. Original Starflight only supported Hercules, CGA, CGA composite, and Tandy/PCjr video modes. The EGA version Standard Box release was two years later. Still later after that (sorry I don't have exact year), Slash re-released the 1988 EGA version with, of course, substantially lower quality in the packaging and documentation (standard Slash stuff, like BW labels and xerox'd docs). Yes, I love Starflight. EA started using the standard boxes regularly in 88. I seriously doubt they came out with Wasteland standard box before flat box. They didn't, I was working at a Babbage's at the time and very clearly remember C64 Wasteland on the shelf in flatbox, then 6 months later the PC version in standard box. He's most likely wrong. Yep. My experiences contradict his ;-) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
In a message dated 04/08/2004 12:06:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86. So I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release. Tom (or anybody), what is the copyright on yours Inside of box says Software 1986,1989 Package design 1986,1989 Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
In a message dated 04/08/2004 1:04:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Starflight 1988 standard box is not only a re-release, it is the coveted EGA version. You know Jim I have this and it is NOT slash version I think (it is in wrap) Only EGA I've seen before was the Slash. It's 5.25 so assume it is original, Slash box I had was 3.5. Which do you have? Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
[SWCollect] C64 Trade List
Hi, I have these C64 games/aps for trade, if interested I will send my want list. C64/128 disk based games/aps, complete with box/folder/manual etc. Wasteland (folder) Dragon Wars with poster Bard's Tale 1 Bard's Tale 3 Uchi Matu Trail Blazer Maggie the Mink Kate the Camel Sammy the Sloth Cad Pak 64 Home Office Workstation Disk Bonus Pak The Supercars Wargame Construction Set SSI Gato Silent Service Geos The Games Creator, folder, Mastertronic Knight Games Tutankham Kung Fu II Echelon overlay but no Lip Stick Knights of Legend (miising manual) Star Empire Quantum Link Suspended (C64 small grey/blue) Cauldron Grave Yardage Aussie Games Starflight 1 (boxed versioon) C64 Power Pack President Elect 1988 SSI Knight Orc Tetrad Hayden Easy Finance 1 Crossbow Sim City Deathbringer w poster and treasure ticket Simon's Basic Word Writer Transylvania Crimson Crown Mail Order Monsters Killed Until Dead Enlightenment Project Firestart C64 carts cart only!! "Atari" Glaxian "CBS" Big Bird's Special Delivery Ducks Ahoy Earnie's Magic Shapes Peanut Butter Panic "Commodore" Visible Solar System Wizard of Wor "Fisher Price" Alpha Build Logic Levels Memory Manor Number Tumblers Sea Speller Up Add'Em "Parker Brothers" Frogger "Spinnaker" Alphabet Zoo Delta Drawing Fraction Fever Kids on Keys Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Hugh Falk wrote: The only two EA games I know of that came in both Flat and Standard boxes are Wasteland and Starflight. However, I'm not a box-variation fanatic so it is possible others exist. Anybody know any? Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III. Since I'm asking questions: My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 - 1988 (depending on where you look). Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986? Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88? I think 88. It was released in 1988, I remember buying it the day it came out! :) I forgot which day it was though, hehe. Cheers, Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
In a message dated 04/08/2004 7:30:58 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III. I've seen Slash BT III box, is there a "normal" one too? Hm, not sure about that, I don't have the boxed version, I've just seen it on pics. Anybody has one and can check? Same with BT I, there is a boxed "Slash" version I think. Have not seen "normal" boxes. Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know Jim I have this and it is NOT slash version I think (it is in Three total versions: flat in 1986 standard in 1988, supports EGA Slash in 19??, 3.5 disks only. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later used by INFOCOM, but a box. Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release of every game? Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare? Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Not only that, but I really don't like the obvious contradiction on his listings: I can't seem to find the Warranty Card!...This is what I believe to be a complete copy of this software Yeah, well, if you can't find the warranty card, I guess it's not complete :-) Freddie Bingham wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later used by INFOCOM, but a box. Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release of every game? Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare? Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Esoteric Question #274
On Apr 8, 2004, at 2:34 PM, Jim Leonard wrote: In your opinion, which is worth more? Consider three nearly identical items in terms of content and quality, except: #1 has a registration card #2 has a registration card but it is filled out with the previous owners details (he just never sent it in) #3 has no registration card (BTW, there's no need to take this seriously. :) But still, you have to wonder, eh? I ranked the above in what I consider most to least worth, but I'm curious if anyone disagrees. I agree with #1, but for me 2 and 3 are equivalent. It is the fact the registration (warranty) card is there and pristine that gives the edge over the other two. Otherwise if I can't theoretically use it it has no value to me. For _me_ looking for the registration card would be at the fussy nitpicking stage of choosing from several equally good options. The lack of the registration card (or catalog/other sales literature) don't make a game non-complete in my mind. It is the stuff that goes with the actual game that makes it complete (HHGtG's no tea being an exception :-)). If you want that just-opened-time-capsule feel, though, I can see why people would want the extras. -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] eBay -ve feedback
I'm sure Im not the only one who's noticed, there's been a dramatic increase in deadbeats and assholes on ebay lately. Now I'm not one afraid to leave negative feedback when someone pisses me off, so here's a question.. Is there a way to deal with retaliatory -ve feedback? Don't get me wrong, I've done pretty good so far - only have 3 of them - but 2 recently, both from assholes that I left -ve feedback for first. As an example, here's what the second weenie wrote: Item lost in mail-He knew that- implied I ignored him, left me Negative Feedback (here's what I wrote: Item never arrived, seller unresponsive, doesnt seem least bit concerned) The guy promised me a partial refund - that was about 2 months ago :) I doubt he even sent it. I've never had anything get lost in the mail from the US, in 10 years of trading or so. If it didn't arrive, there was always a reason (like seller cheating me). While anyone reading this can obviously see he's a moron, it does bring my % feedback down. I just find it annoying when people do that, and wondered if anyone had a clever way around it. Havent even figured out how to reply to peoples' feedbacks but I know its possible as Ive seen it before. Any tips are welcome! -- -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ Visit the Computer and Book RPG Museum at http://vgmuseum.chaoticmonkey.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Esoteric Question #274
Jim Leonard stated: In your opinion, which is worth more? Consider three nearly identical items in terms of content and quality, except: #1 has a registration card #2 has a registration card but it is filled out with the previous owners details (he just never sent it in) #3 has no registration card (BTW, there's no need to take this seriously. :) But still, you have to wonder, eh? I ranked the above in what I consider most to least worth, but I'm curious if anyone disagrees. I agree with you ratings, but when it comes down to it, the registration card will be the last thing I worry about being there. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
