Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread Jim Leonard
Hugh Falk wrote:

Since I'm asking questions:  My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 -
1988 (depending on where you look).  Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986?
Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88?  I think 88.
I bought mine in 1988, but I have the IBM PC version.

Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86.  So
I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release.  Tom (or anybody), what
is the copyright on yours?
Starflight 1988 standard box is not only a re-release, it is the coveted EGA 
version.  Original Starflight only supported Hercules, CGA, CGA composite, and 
Tandy/PCjr video modes.  The EGA version Standard Box release was two years 
later.  Still later after that (sorry I don't have exact year), Slash 
re-released the 1988 EGA version with, of course, substantially lower quality 
in the packaging and documentation (standard Slash stuff, like BW labels and 
xerox'd docs).

Yes, I love Starflight.

EA started using the standard boxes regularly in 88.  I seriously doubt they
came out with Wasteland standard box before flat box.  
They didn't, I was working at a Babbage's at the time and very clearly 
remember C64 Wasteland on the shelf in flatbox, then 6 months later the PC 
version in standard box.

He's most likely wrong.
Yep.  My experiences contradict his ;-)
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Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 04/08/2004 12:06:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86. So
I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release. Tom (or anybody), what
is the copyright on yours

Inside of box says Software 1986,1989 Package design 1986,1989

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Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 04/08/2004 1:04:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Starflight 1988 standard box is not only a re-release, it is the coveted EGA 
version. 

You know Jim I have this and it is NOT slash version I think (it is in wrap) Only EGA I've seen before was the Slash. It's 5.25 so assume it is original, Slash box I had was 3.5. Which do you have?

Tom
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RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread Per-Olof Karlsson

Hugh Falk wrote:

The only two EA games I know of that came in both Flat and Standard boxes
are Wasteland and 
Starflight.  However, I'm not a box-variation fanatic so it is possible
others exist.  Anybody 
know any?

Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III.

Since I'm asking questions:  My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 -
1988 (depending on where you look).  Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986?
Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88?  I think 88.

It was released in 1988, I remember buying it the day it came out! :) I
forgot which day it was though, hehe.

Cheers,
Peo


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Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 04/08/2004 7:30:58 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



 Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III.
  I've seen Slash BT III box, is there a "normal" one too? 
 Hm, not sure about that, I don't have the boxed version, I've just seen it on pics. Anybody has one and can check?


Same with BT I, there is a boxed "Slash" version I think. Have not seen "normal" boxes.

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Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know Jim I have this and it is NOT slash version I think (it is in 
Three total versions:
flat in 1986
standard in 1988, supports EGA
Slash in 19??, 3.5 disks only.
Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

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RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread Freddie Bingham
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM
E:B:SS:US:1

This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later
used by INFOCOM, but a box.

Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey
box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release
of every game?

Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his
items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most
auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him.

Freddie

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 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
 
 Deluxe Edition of Wasteland???
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
 ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1
 
 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass 
 this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd 
 love to know how he did that since the protection on 
 Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the 
 Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal 
 that I know of that EA did for the Apple).  If he did a bit 
 copy that doesn't prove anything.
 
 I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then 
 the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John 
 Madden and Earl Weaver did).  Thoughts?
 
 Interestingly, there's no picture :)  For all I know he took 
 the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts 
 from a flat pack.  I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they 
 were relatively easy/cheap to get.  
   Hugh?  Can I get a ruling?
 
 
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Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-08 Thread Jim Leonard
Not only that, but I really don't like the obvious contradiction on his 
listings:  I can't seem to find the Warranty Card!...This is what I 
believe to be a complete copy of this software  Yeah, well, if you 
can't find the warranty card, I guess it's not complete :-)

Freddie Bingham wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM
E:B:SS:US:1
This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later
used by INFOCOM, but a box.
Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey
box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release
of every game?
Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his
items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most
auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him.
Freddie

Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org
 


-Original Message-
From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

Deluxe Edition of Wasteland???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1

Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass 
this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd 
love to know how he did that since the protection on 
Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the 
Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal 
that I know of that EA did for the Apple).  If he did a bit 
copy that doesn't prove anything.

I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then 
the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John 
Madden and Earl Weaver did).  Thoughts?

Interestingly, there's no picture :)  For all I know he took 
the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts 
from a flat pack.  I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they 
were relatively easy/cheap to get.  
 Hugh?  Can I get a ruling?

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[SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-07 Thread Dan Chisarick
Deluxe Edition of Wasteland???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1

Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and  
each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did  
that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet,  
Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most  
brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple).  If he did a bit copy  
that doesn't prove anything.

I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as  
the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver  
did).  Thoughts?

Interestingly, there's no picture :)  For all I know he took the box  
from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack.  I  
have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get.  
 Hugh?  Can I get a ruling?

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Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-07 Thread Jim Leonard
Dan Chisarick wrote:

I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as  
the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver  
did).  Thoughts?
Yes, that is how it was.  He seems to have it backwards.  Geez, I would kill 
small rodents with my bare hands to have an album cover release of Wasteland 
for IBM (faintly rumored to exist but I've never seen one).
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RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

2004-04-07 Thread Hugh Falk
The only two EA games I know of that came in both Flat and Standard boxes
are Wasteland and Starflight.  However, I'm not a box-variation fanatic so
it is possible others exist.  Anybody know any?

Since I'm asking questions:  My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 -
1988 (depending on where you look).  Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986?
Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88?  I think 88.

Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86.  So
I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release.  Tom (or anybody), what
is the copyright on yours?

EA started using the standard boxes regularly in 88.  I seriously doubt they
came out with Wasteland standard box before flat box.  I don't remember them
doing this; however, that's just my opinion ...it certainly is possible.
He's most likely wrong.

Hugh

-Original Message-
From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?

Deluxe Edition of Wasteland???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1

Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and  
each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did  
that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet,  
Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most  
brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple).  If he did a bit copy  
that doesn't prove anything.

I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as  
the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver  
did).  Thoughts?

Interestingly, there's no picture :)  For all I know he took the box  
from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack.  I  
have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get.  
  Hugh?  Can I get a ruling?


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