Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Hugh Falk wrote: Since I'm asking questions: My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 - 1988 (depending on where you look). Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986? Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88? I think 88. I bought mine in 1988, but I have the IBM PC version. Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86. So I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release. Tom (or anybody), what is the copyright on yours? Starflight 1988 standard box is not only a re-release, it is the coveted EGA version. Original Starflight only supported Hercules, CGA, CGA composite, and Tandy/PCjr video modes. The EGA version Standard Box release was two years later. Still later after that (sorry I don't have exact year), Slash re-released the 1988 EGA version with, of course, substantially lower quality in the packaging and documentation (standard Slash stuff, like BW labels and xerox'd docs). Yes, I love Starflight. EA started using the standard boxes regularly in 88. I seriously doubt they came out with Wasteland standard box before flat box. They didn't, I was working at a Babbage's at the time and very clearly remember C64 Wasteland on the shelf in flatbox, then 6 months later the PC version in standard box. He's most likely wrong. Yep. My experiences contradict his ;-) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
In a message dated 04/08/2004 12:06:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86. So I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release. Tom (or anybody), what is the copyright on yours Inside of box says Software 1986,1989 Package design 1986,1989 Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
In a message dated 04/08/2004 1:04:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Starflight 1988 standard box is not only a re-release, it is the coveted EGA version. You know Jim I have this and it is NOT slash version I think (it is in wrap) Only EGA I've seen before was the Slash. It's 5.25 so assume it is original, Slash box I had was 3.5. Which do you have? Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Hugh Falk wrote: The only two EA games I know of that came in both Flat and Standard boxes are Wasteland and Starflight. However, I'm not a box-variation fanatic so it is possible others exist. Anybody know any? Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III. Since I'm asking questions: My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 - 1988 (depending on where you look). Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986? Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88? I think 88. It was released in 1988, I remember buying it the day it came out! :) I forgot which day it was though, hehe. Cheers, Peo -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
In a message dated 04/08/2004 7:30:58 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another one that comes to mind is The Bard's Tale III. I've seen Slash BT III box, is there a "normal" one too? Hm, not sure about that, I don't have the boxed version, I've just seen it on pics. Anybody has one and can check? Same with BT I, there is a boxed "Slash" version I think. Have not seen "normal" boxes. Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know Jim I have this and it is NOT slash version I think (it is in Three total versions: flat in 1986 standard in 1988, supports EGA Slash in 19??, 3.5 disks only. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later used by INFOCOM, but a box. Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release of every game? Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare? Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Not only that, but I really don't like the obvious contradiction on his listings: I can't seem to find the Warranty Card!...This is what I believe to be a complete copy of this software Yeah, well, if you can't find the warranty card, I guess it's not complete :-) Freddie Bingham wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later used by INFOCOM, but a box. Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release of every game? Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare? Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
Dan Chisarick wrote: I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Yes, that is how it was. He seems to have it backwards. Geez, I would kill small rodents with my bare hands to have an album cover release of Wasteland for IBM (faintly rumored to exist but I've never seen one). -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
The only two EA games I know of that came in both Flat and Standard boxes are Wasteland and Starflight. However, I'm not a box-variation fanatic so it is possible others exist. Anybody know any? Since I'm asking questions: My Apple Wasteland has copyrights from 1986 - 1988 (depending on where you look). Does anybody have one with ONLY 1986? Did it actually hit the shelves in 86, 87 or 88? I think 88. Starflight is interesting because the only copyright in the game is 86. So I'm guessing the standard box was a 1988 re-release. Tom (or anybody), what is the copyright on yours? EA started using the standard boxes regularly in 88. I seriously doubt they came out with Wasteland standard box before flat box. I don't remember them doing this; however, that's just my opinion ...it certainly is possible. He's most likely wrong. Hugh -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare? Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/