RE: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
For me, it would have to be my Personal Software Zork. It wasn't easy sneaking into that guy's house in the middle of the night. There was a dog, and it was on the third floor...don't ask! And then when the lights came on and the whole family started yelling for the police, well, I just couldn't let them leave, now could I? Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash? To all Drash owners on this list: How did you find yours? To at least one person, I recall it fell into their lap -- for Edward, it was a 3-year journey. How did you all (including Edward) find your Drash? Or any of your most prized software posessions, for that matter? Any good stories out there? For all my items worth over $80, ebay was my location. But for at least two things, they fell into my lap: Radical Rex, arguably the rarest Sega CD game published, was a Buy It Now for $9 (auctions for up to $80). And I found a Central Point Option Board (used to auction for $130, now unstable) was found at a local used software store for $12. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Information in this message reflects current market conditions and is subject to change without notice. It is believed to be reliable, but is not guaranteed for accuracy or completeness. Details provided do not supersede your normal trade confirmations or statements. Any product is subject to prior sale. CIBC World Markets Corp, its affiliated companies, and their officers or employees, may have a position in or make a market in any security described above, and may act as an investment banker or advisor to such. Although CIBC World Markets Corp. is an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC), it is solely responsible for its contractual obligations. Any securities products recommended, purchased, or sold in any client accounts (i) will not be insured by the FDIC, (ii)will not be deposits or obligations of CIBC, (iii) will not be endorsed or guaranteed by CIBC, and (iv) will be subject to risks, including possible loss of principal invested. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
At 11:01 15/03/2004 -0600, you wrote: Or any of your most prized software posessions, for that matter? Any good stories out there? My most prized possessions are not really software: original Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair 2 and Space Ace LaserDiscs. Got them off eBay a few years ago. Vincent. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
In a message dated 03/15/2004 11:06:11 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To all Drash owners on this list: How did you find yours? To at least one person, I recall it "fell into their lap" -- for Edward, it was a 3-year journey. How did you all (including Edward) find your Drash? Private sales, one I got by advertising to buy, the other someone contacted me through my web page. Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
Or any of your most prized software posessions, for that matter? Any good stories out there? Well, I might share some of my lucky fell into lap-stories (if anyone's listening :). Don't take it the brag-way - I enjoy reading these kind of things from others too so come and share :) I bought Ultima I remake for Apple ][ in an Apple ][ game lot. When the package arrived that U1 (BTW does anyone else use this acronym?-) game box revealed Ultima progame-release with everything but the plastic bag. As one can imagine my jaws dropped quite a bit. http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_ultima.html Since the cover art is the same (fortunate for me) the seller had apparently thought it was manual for the remake, which obviously wasn't the case. It's probably not quite my rariest game (appears more often on eBay than f.ex. Softporn Adventure) but seems to be most valuable one of them on eBay. On a side note the lot also included Time Zone [which I bought the lot for], Enchanter Trilogy (and couple other Infocoms), Bard's Tale I-III (with clue books for I-II), Archon I-II, Ultima V, etc... Other nice find has been Dragon's Lair 2 Laserdisc for about $55. http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/gamecollection/big/ld_dl2.jpg What do these sell for nowadays? (not selling, just curious). It's very worn but plays. I also have a Laserdisc-player it was originally played on (Sony LDP-1450 Lasermax) but I haven't been able to get the program work which controls it thru LPT-port. The intro runs automatically. And back to good finds... Two sealed Ultima IVs for Sega Master System about $12 / piece, plus two boxed ones without the two oversized manuals. Smurfs Travel the World (Smurfs 2) (1996) for Sega Master System was great too. http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_segams.html There are only couple handfuls of them known in existance. A fellow finnish collector found a lot of these while in Czech Republic in spring 2000. They were previously been considered not released. Wonder why these were produced but not officially released... Maybe there's a warehouse full of these somewhere ;) Finnish-version of Videopac's Quest for the Rings Sormusten etsintä almost new and complete for about $18. http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_videopac.html (Videopac is European and don't know if I'm the only euro-person here but anyone knowing is this possibly the rariest of Videopac-games?) And couple euros for Intellivison Tutankham (loose, rare). Flea market game and computer finds are fortunately quite common, though usually the basic stuff I come across there isn't for my adventure/RPG collection, but I can trade/sell them to get what I'm interested in and everyone's happy .) - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
Or any of your most prized software posessions, for that matter? Any good stories out there? Marco (Infocom-IF) and I just bought a box of film, slides, etc., of some of the late-term (early- to mid-1990s) Infocom package designs from a guy at Activision. Photos they took for the package, some of the LGoP2 girls, etc. We're gonna split it down the middle once I have time to catalogue everything that's in it. That was kinda neat, we found out about it from helping him get the manuals and PC code for some of their more obscure releases. (I loaned him my Cornerstone and Fooblitzky... Yeah, even after Kitchen... God help the universe if I get f***ked over again. B-) The other great story is probably the PC Sentient Cyborg, which I found completely unexpectedly in a warehouse owned by a guy who let me dig around and help him organize it. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
* If this shows up twice, I apologize I am having problems with my net connection * Well mine was certainly and adventure... :) One day I was sifting through the gobs of spam that I usually receive on my vintage-sierra account and I noticed one titled Mt. Drash. I tried not to get too excited because typically people that send these kinds of e-mails either want to buy, want to download, or want to report that it isn't on my site (real helpful)... So I figured what the heck and opened it. Here is what it said: What would you be willing ot pay for an original Mt. Drash? It's in excellent condition in the original box with the manual and tape (which still works, I tested it in my Vic-20). I couldn't help but be excited! I immediately replied and asked for more details and a picture. Then I waited... And waited... And waited... And waited some more... I e-mailed again saying I was very interested and to please get back to me. So I waited again... Still no responseSo I started to do a little detective work. I 'Googgled', yahooed, webcrawled, etc the guys name and started sifting through the thousands of hits. After about a week of searching I found a guy with the same name posting on a message board. So I posted on the board, pleading for the guy to check his e-mail! Then the moment I had been waiting for! He got back to me!! Keep in mind that this was a nearly a MONTH after his initial e-mail. A month of a lot of sleepless nights from me :) Anyway, in his response he apologized for not getting back to me sooner. He said he hardly remembered sending me the initial e-mail because it was late at night and that all my responses had been buried by spam! Then he proceeded to tell me that the game was NOT his... He had been helping a friend sort through games and noticed it in one of the piles. Remembering playing and loving all the Ultima games he didn't recall playing this one. So he borrowed it, dug out his VIC-20 and spent an hour playing it. He didn't understand why I was so interested in it because he had come to the conclusion that it was a horrible game. It's interesting from a historical perspective but I can't see anyone actually wanting to play this game. A collector's item, sure, I can see that. I assume that's why you want it... Is there something about Drash that I'm not getting? Then he told me why he e-mailed me in the first place: I was looking for information on the Quest games because I only ever played King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry and Police Quest and wanted to replay them and find out how many sequels there were...When I saw you were looking for Mt. Drash and I had it sitting on the desk beside me, I sent you email. The stars were aligned that night I tell ya!! Then he said he knew his friend was organizing his games with plans to sell off his collection, so he assumed Drash was going to be part of that sale. Of course he wouldn't give me his friends name or e-mail...he simply said he would let him know about our conversation and if he wants to contact me he will and we can talk directly. So of course my heart was in my stomach...I knew there was going to be more waiting involved and not knowing how things were going to turn out was driving me nuts! Finally, approximately two weeks later (after a few more e-mails to the guy begging for his friends name or e-mail without luck) his friend contacted me! He started his e-mail by stating he wasn't sure what to think because he had come back from a trip to find his e-mail box full with everything that had happened so far. Then he said he did indeed have an original Mt. Drash and that he would be willing to sell it. BUT! He was torn about what to do... He figured with all the collectors out there putting it on ebay would fetch the highest price but at the same time wanted to minimize hassles such as maintaining anonymity, avoid grief, etc... He ended his e-mail with: Honestly, that is the real appeal of putting it on eBay. It might be fun to see how high it goes. I await your response. I knew that the situation was extremely delicate but I had to act fast! So I responded and told him that I would be willing to go to him and do the deal in person. I swore to never divulge from whom I got it. Also I made a hefty offer to show how serious I was and how I wanted to avoid ebay at all costs! He agreed that doing the deal face to face was a good idea because his identity would remain secret and this would avoid the hassles of ebay. After a few more e-mails we agreed on a price, a place, and time to meet and I booked the earliest flight I could. Now keep in mind he did NOT have a camera so I did all this without ever seeing the game. I figured, though it was probably foolish, it would be an adventure. He seemed like a together guy and there was really no advantage for him not to be honest since we were meeting in person and I would have plenty of time to inspect it. So the day finally came for our
RE: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
At 14:08 15/03/2004 -0600, you wrote: Would you consider making backups of the tape and documentation before it is lost forever? - If I can figure out a way of course, I was thinking about making an MP3 of the tape (not sure if that is possible) NO MP3! ;-) It's a lossy compression, so only WAV files (and equivalent) are OK in this field. Vincent. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
Josh Lulewicz wrote: After a few more e-mails we agreed on a price, a place, and time to meet and I booked the earliest flight I could. Booked a flight?!? Just how much did you offer/pay for your Drash? Now keep in mind he did NOT have a camera so I did all this without ever seeing the game. I figured, though it was probably foolish, it would be an adventure. He seemed like a together guy and there was really no advantage for him not to be honest since we were meeting in person and I would have plenty of time to inspect it. Good reasoning. I drove 4 hours north once to meet up with a fellow old software hobbyist (Vincent will know him as Jeff) to talk with him, trade some stuff (Central Point Option Board, Wizardry, etc.), and I got a free pass to the gig he was playing (Goth, not my personal bag, but I was able to enjoy the show because their performance and music was very good). It was a happy adventure. - If I can figure out a way of course, I was thinking about making an MP3 of the tape (not sure if that is possible) See earlier conversation about Archiving audio tapes (I posted it two hours ago). -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
Jukka Eronen stated: Finnish-version of Videopac's Quest for the Rings Sormusten etsintä almost new and complete for about $18. http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_videopac.html (Videopac is European and don't know if I'm the only euro-person here but anyone knowing is this possibly the rariest of Videopac-games?) The Videopac was known as the Odyssey^2 (that's a superscript 2) in the U.S.A. I know the author/maintainer of the Odyssey^2 Homepage (www.classicgaming.com/o2home/). I don't see that version of Quest for the Rings on the list, but you might check out the rarity of other European releases and see what you think of his ratings. And send him an e-mail; I'm sure he'd be happy to hear about and discuss it. Tell him I sent you. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
Well mine was certainly and adventure... :) One day I was sifting through the gobs of spam that I usually receive on my vintage-sierra account and I noticed one titled Mt. Drash. I tried not to get too excited because typically people that send these kinds of e-mails either want to buy, want to download, or want to report that it isn't on my site (real helpful)... So I figured what the heck and opened it. Here is what it said: What would you be willing ot pay for an original Mt. Drash? It's in excellent condition in the original box with the manual and tape (which still works, I tested it in my Vic-20). I couldn't help but be excited! I immediately replied and asked for more details and a picture. Then I waited... And waited... And waited... And waited some more... I e-mailed again saying I was very interested and to please get back to me. So I waited again... Still no responseSo I started to do a little detective work. I 'Googgled', yahooed, webcrawled, etc the guys name and started sifting through the thousands of hits. After about a week of searching I found a guy with the same name posting on a message board. So I posted on the board, pleading for the guy to check his e-mail! Then the moment I had been waiting for! He got back to me!! Keep in mind that this was a nearly a MONTH after his initial e-mail. A month of a lot of sleepless nights from me :) Anyway, in his response he apologized for not getting back to me sooner. He said he hardly remembered sending me the initial e-mail because it was late at night and that all my responses had been buried by spam! Then he proceeded to tell me that the game was NOT his... He had been helping a friend sort through games and noticed it in one of the piles. Remembering playing and loving all the Ultima games he didn't recall playing this one. So he borrowed it, dug out his VIC-20 and spent an hour playing it. He didn't understand why I was so interested in it because he had come to the conclusion that it was a horrible game. It's interesting from a historical perspective but I can't see anyone actually wanting to play this game. A collector's item, sure, I can see that. I assume that's why you want it... Is there something about Drash that I'm not getting? Then he told me why he e-mailed me in the first place: I was looking for information on the Quest games because I only ever played King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry and Police Quest and wanted to replay them and find out how many sequels there were...When I saw you were looking for Mt. Drash and I had it sitting on the desk beside me, I sent you email. The stars were aligned that night I tell ya!! Then he said he knew his friend was organizing his games with plans to sell off his collection, so he assumed Drash was going to be part of that sale. Of course he wouldn't give me his friends name or e-mail...he simply said he would let him know about our conversation and if he wants to contact me he will and we can talk directly. So of course my heart was in my stomach...I knew there was going to be more waiting involved and not knowing how things were going to turn out was driving me nuts! Finally, approximately two weeks later (after a few more e-mails to the guy begging for his friends name or e-mail without luck) his friend contacted me! He started his e-mail by stating he wasn't sure what to think because he had come back from a trip to find his e-mail box full with everything that had happened so far. Then he said he did indeed have an original Mt. Drash and that he would be willing to sell it. BUT! He was torn about what to do... He figured with all the collectors out there putting it on ebay would fetch the highest price but at the same time wanted to minimize hassles such as maintaining anonymity, avoid grief, etc... He ended his e-mail with: Honestly, that is the real appeal of putting it on eBay. It might be fun to see how high it goes. I await your response. I knew that the situation was extremely delicate but I had to act fast! So I responded and told him that I would be willing to go to him and do the deal in person. I swore to never divulge from whom I got it. Also I made a hefty offer to show how serious I was and how I wanted to avoid ebay at all costs! He agreed that doing the deal face to face was a good idea because his identity would remain secret and this would avoid the hassles of ebay. After a few more e-mails we agreed on a price, a place, and time to meet and I booked the earliest flight I could. Now keep in mind he did NOT have a camera so I did all this without ever seeing the game. I figured, though it was probably foolish, it would be an adventure. He seemed like a together guy and there was really no advantage for him not to be honest since we were meeting in person and I would have plenty of time to inspect it. So the day finally came for our meeting. The way my flights were scheduled I would have approximately 6 hours to do
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
I guess my luckiest find (that I can recall) was probably Softporn Adventure. I got it complete for $5 on USENET. Ironically, although I knew it was the precursor to LSL, I had no idea of its value. Since I mostly collect RPGs I was hesitant to even buy it! Glad I did though :) Oh, and I got not 1, but 2 copies of the original release of Beneath Apple Manor - for free! (Donations to the 'museum' - which are welcome anytime btw, lol) (someone on this list is the happy owner of one now :) ) For some reason thats just not a popular game among collectors I guess. Also picked up tons of bargains from C.E. (does that count?) Found Troll's Tale cheap too. If anyone's in the Syracuse area, there's a great little store (see http://www.waynes.com/) that still has tons of Apple II software and hardware. (But dont get too excited, I took most of the good stuff already). He's got dozens of old games though, many still in the original boxes, for relatively cheap. He told me he had crates more of the stuff in 'the attic' but he wouldn't let me go look :( Or any of your most prized software posessions, for that matter? Any good stories out there? -- -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ Visit the Computer and Book RPG Museum at http://vgmuseum.chaoticmonkey.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] How did you find your Drash?
I bought most of my Infocom grey boxes from a place called Compsult, in California, back in 1991. They still sell stuff on eBay as Software Outlet or something similar... I think I purcshased 15-16 titles, brand new, still in the shrink for $5 each... Sci-Fi classics with the slipcase for $15. Mind you, I unshrinked them all back then, but they are still in nice condition! Also, probably my luckiest buy... Back in 1992 or 1993, I purchased brand new Infidel, Sorcerer, and Planetfall folios, and a Starcross saucer for about $50. The person from whom I bought these items had a few Personal Software Zorks - but I didn't know any better, so I never asked for one. But he decided to throw one in anyways! Howard Feldman wrote: I guess my luckiest find (that I can recall) was probably Softporn Adventure. I got it complete for $5 on USENET. Ironically, although I knew it was the precursor to LSL, I had no idea of its value. Since I mostly collect RPGs I was hesitant to even buy it! Glad I did though :) Oh, and I got not 1, but 2 copies of the original release of Beneath Apple Manor - for free! (Donations to the 'museum' - which are welcome anytime btw, lol) (someone on this list is the happy owner of one now :) ) For some reason thats just not a popular game among collectors I guess. Also picked up tons of bargains from C.E. (does that count?) Found Troll's Tale cheap too. If anyone's in the Syracuse area, there's a great little store (see http://www.waynes.com/) that still has tons of Apple II software and hardware. (But dont get too excited, I took most of the good stuff already). He's got dozens of old games though, many still in the original boxes, for relatively cheap. He told me he had crates more of the stuff in 'the attic' but he wouldn't let me go look :( Or any of your most prized software posessions, for that matter? Any good stories out there? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
