Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Nicole Jacque via swift-evolution]

Ok let’s keep it as is, and it is easy enough to add a new category if it 
appears to be useful.

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 10:14 AM, John McCall  wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Jon Shier > > wrote:
>> Personally I’d wait and see if much third party discussion happens and the 
>> split it out if it gets too noisy. Otherwise you’re separating discussions 
>> before we know they’ll happen. 
> 
> Yes, I've come around to this position, too.
> 
> John.
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 11:01 AM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:38 AM, Nicole Jacque > wrote:
 
 Could you explain a bit more about how you think that category might be 
 used (vs. discussion) and organized?
>>> 
>>> Well, I was thinking it could be a place for people to form stable working 
>>> groups for various projects.  I suppose Development or Evolution is a more 
>>> appropriate category for that when the "library or open source project" is 
>>> the Swift project itself, so this would just be for other projects, and 
>>> maybe there isn't enough of a compelling need to split that out from Using 
>>> Swift.
>>> 
>>> John.
>>> 
 
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:58 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
> > wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
>> > wrote:
>> I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries 
>> or open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is 
>> fundamentally different than asking technical questions.
>> 
>> It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups 
>> for evolution
> 
> Having a Workspace category for project collaboration makes a lot of 
> sense to me.
> 
> John.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> This sounds great!
>>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>>> on Rust forum.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>>> > wrote:
 [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
 >
 
 [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
 >
 
 -- Ben
 
> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
> 
> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
> 
> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
>  >
> 
> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
>  >
> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
> 
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[John McCall via swift-evolution]

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Jon Shier  wrote:
> Personally I’d wait and see if much third party discussion happens and the 
> split it out if it gets too noisy. Otherwise you’re separating discussions 
> before we know they’ll happen. 

Yes, I've come around to this position, too.

John.

> 
> On Dec 14, 2017, at 11:01 AM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
> > wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:38 AM, Nicole Jacque >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could you explain a bit more about how you think that category might be 
>>> used (vs. discussion) and organized?
>> 
>> Well, I was thinking it could be a place for people to form stable working 
>> groups for various projects.  I suppose Development or Evolution is a more 
>> appropriate category for that when the "library or open source project" is 
>> the Swift project itself, so this would just be for other projects, and 
>> maybe there isn't enough of a compelling need to split that out from Using 
>> Swift.
>> 
>> John.
>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:58 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
 > wrote:
 
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
> > wrote:
> I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries 
> or open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is 
> fundamentally different than asking technical questions.
> 
> It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups 
> for evolution
 
 Having a Workspace category for project collaboration makes a lot of sense 
 to me.
 
 John.
 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> This sounds great!
>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>> on Rust forum.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>> > wrote:
>>> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> -- Ben
>>> 
 On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
 
 When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
 e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
 
 Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
 >
 
 Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
 >
 e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
 
 -- Ben
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Jon Shier via swift-evolution]

Personally I’d wait and see if much third party discussion happens and the 
split it out if it gets too noisy. Otherwise you’re separating discussions 
before we know they’ll happen. 

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 11:01 AM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:38 AM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you explain a bit more about how you think that category might be used 
>> (vs. discussion) and organized?
> 
> Well, I was thinking it could be a place for people to form stable working 
> groups for various projects.  I suppose Development or Evolution is a more 
> appropriate category for that when the "library or open source project" is 
> the Swift project itself, so this would just be for other projects, and maybe 
> there isn't enough of a compelling need to split that out from Using Swift.
> 
> John.
> 
>> 
 On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:58 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
  wrote:
 
 On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
  wrote:
 I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries or 
 open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is fundamentally 
 different than asking technical questions.
 
 It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups 
 for evolution
>>> 
>>> Having a Workspace category for project collaboration makes a lot of sense 
>>> to me.
>>> 
>>> John.
>>> 
 
 
> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> This sounds great!
> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
> on Rust forum.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>  wrote:
>> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
>> 
>> 
>> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
>> 
>> 
>> -- Ben
>> 
>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
>>> 
>>> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
>>> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
>>> 
>>> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
>>> 
>>> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
>>> 
>>> -- Ben
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[John McCall via swift-evolution]

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:38 AM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
> 
> Could you explain a bit more about how you think that category might be used 
> (vs. discussion) and organized?

Well, I was thinking it could be a place for people to form stable working 
groups for various projects.  I suppose Development or Evolution is a more 
appropriate category for that when the "library or open source project" is the 
Swift project itself, so this would just be for other projects, and maybe there 
isn't enough of a compelling need to split that out from Using Swift.

John.

> 
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:58 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
>>> > wrote:
>>> I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries or 
>>> open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is fundamentally 
>>> different than asking technical questions.
>>> 
>>> It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups for 
>>> evolution
>> 
>> Having a Workspace category for project collaboration makes a lot of sense 
>> to me.
>> 
>> John.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
 > wrote:
 
 This sounds great!
 Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
 have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
 where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
 similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
 include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
 alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
 together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
 like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
 on Rust forum.
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
 > wrote:
> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
>  >
> 
> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
>  >
> 
> -- Ben
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
>> 
>> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
>> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
>> 
>> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
>> > >
>> 
>> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
>> > >
>> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
>> 
>> -- Ben
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Nicole Jacque via swift-evolution]

Could you explain a bit more about how you think that category might be used 
(vs. discussion) and organized?

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:58 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
>> > wrote:
>> I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries or 
>> open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is fundamentally 
>> different than asking technical questions.
>> 
>> It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups for 
>> evolution
> 
> Having a Workspace category for project collaboration makes a lot of sense to 
> me.
> 
> John.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This sounds great!
>>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>>> on Rust forum.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>>>  wrote:
 [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
 
 
 [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
 
 
 -- Ben
 
> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
> 
> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
> 
> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
> 
> 
> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
> 
> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
> 
> -- Ben
 
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Nicole Jacque via swift-evolution]

Ok, I’m certainly not opposed to adding a subcategory to “Swift Users” for this 
if we think it’s useful.

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries or 
> open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is fundamentally 
> different than asking technical questions.
> 
> It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups for 
> evolution
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This sounds great!
>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>> on Rust forum.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>>  wrote:
>>> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Ben
>>> 
 On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
 
 When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
 e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
 
 Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
 
 
 Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
 
 e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
 
 -- Ben
>>> 
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[John McCall via swift-evolution]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries or 
> open source projects. I think asking for collaborators is fundamentally 
> different than asking technical questions.
> 
> It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups for 
> evolution

Having a Workspace category for project collaboration makes a lot of sense to 
me.

John.

> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This sounds great!
>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>> on Rust forum.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>>  wrote:
>>> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Ben
>>> 
 On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
 
 When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
 e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
 
 Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
 
 
 Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
 
 e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
 
 -- Ben
>>> 
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution]

I would also like a place in the “Using Swift” for working on libraries or open 
source projects. I think asking for collaborators is fundamentally different 
than asking technical questions.

It would be nice to have support somehow for the idea of working groups for 
evolution


> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> This sounds great!
> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
> on Rust forum.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
>  wrote:
>> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
>> 
>> 
>> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
>> 
>> 
>> -- Ben
>> 
>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
>>> 
>>> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
>>> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
>>> 
>>> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
>>> 
>>> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
>>> 
>>> -- Ben
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes that's what I was suggesting.
> My view is that different kind of conversations would happen in a
> "help" vs. "announcements" category. Some people may be interested in
> being up to date with the more experienced users, announcements of new
> projects or putting together efforts towards a lib or even meetups or
> other IRL stuff; but don't want to spent time reading trough a more
> "stack overflowy" kind of posts.
> But I don't really have a strong view on this, I just wanted to
> clarify it as, for example, Rust forums do this differentiation and I
> figured it was worth raising it now :P
> Cheers

That’s what Boost did and it worked well, FWIW
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Nicole Jacque via swift-evolution]

Thanks for the JIRAs — I’m posting updates there!

> On Dec 11, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Ben Rimmington  wrote:
> 
> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
> 
> 
> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
> 
> 
> -- Ben
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
>> 
>> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
>> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
>> 
>> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
>> 
>> 
>> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
>> 
>> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
>> 
>> -- Ben
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Nicole Jacque via swift-evolution]

We’ve tried to avoid having too many categories, and the hope is that something 
like this can be accomplished by using tags.  That said, if we find that that 
does not work well, or that we get enough of these sort of topics, we can 
easily create a new category for them.

> On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:33 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Alejandro Martinez  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes that's what I was suggesting.
>> My view is that different kind of conversations would happen in a
>> "help" vs. "announcements" category. Some people may be interested in
>> being up to date with the more experienced users, announcements of new
>> projects or putting together efforts towards a lib or even meetups or
>> other IRL stuff; but don't want to spent time reading trough a more
>> "stack overflowy" kind of posts.
>> But I don't really have a strong view on this, I just wanted to
>> clarify it as, for example, Rust forums do this differentiation and I
>> figured it was worth raising it now :P
> 
> I think this would be best as a tag within the Using Swift category.
> 
> John.
> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:44 PM, John McCall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Kelvin Ma  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This sounds great!
>>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>>> on Rust forum.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i always thought Using Swift was going to be more for beginner questions and
>>> helping newcomers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's what it looks like, which is completely fine. But if that's the
>>> case I think we should have another category for that kind of stuff ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think it's open to both, just as swift-users is today.  The topic name
>>> needs to
>>> encourage beginner questions because otherwise the beginners won't know
>>> where
>>> to go; experienced forum users presumably don't need that kind of direction.
>>> 
>>> Are you suggesting that these ought to be split into separate categories?  I
>>> don't think
>>> I'd support that.
>>> 
>>> John.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[John McCall via swift-evolution]

> On Dec 12, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Alejandro Martinez  wrote:
> 
> Yes that's what I was suggesting.
> My view is that different kind of conversations would happen in a
> "help" vs. "announcements" category. Some people may be interested in
> being up to date with the more experienced users, announcements of new
> projects or putting together efforts towards a lib or even meetups or
> other IRL stuff; but don't want to spent time reading trough a more
> "stack overflowy" kind of posts.
> But I don't really have a strong view on this, I just wanted to
> clarify it as, for example, Rust forums do this differentiation and I
> figured it was worth raising it now :P

I think this would be best as a tag within the Using Swift category.

John.

> Cheers
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:44 PM, John McCall  wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Kelvin Ma  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This sounds great!
>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>> on Rust forum.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> i always thought Using Swift was going to be more for beginner questions and
>> helping newcomers
>> 
>> 
>> That's what it looks like, which is completely fine. But if that's the
>> case I think we should have another category for that kind of stuff ;)
>> 
>> 
>> I think it's open to both, just as swift-users is today.  The topic name
>> needs to
>> encourage beginner questions because otherwise the beginners won't know
>> where
>> to go; experienced forum users presumably don't need that kind of direction.
>> 
>> Are you suggesting that these ought to be split into separate categories?  I
>> don't think
>> I'd support that.
>> 
>> John.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution]

Yes that's what I was suggesting.
My view is that different kind of conversations would happen in a
"help" vs. "announcements" category. Some people may be interested in
being up to date with the more experienced users, announcements of new
projects or putting together efforts towards a lib or even meetups or
other IRL stuff; but don't want to spent time reading trough a more
"stack overflowy" kind of posts.
But I don't really have a strong view on this, I just wanted to
clarify it as, for example, Rust forums do this differentiation and I
figured it was worth raising it now :P
Cheers

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:44 PM, John McCall  wrote:
>
> On Dec 12, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Kelvin Ma  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>  wrote:
>
>
> This sounds great!
> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
> on Rust forum.
>
>
>
> i always thought Using Swift was going to be more for beginner questions and
> helping newcomers
>
>
> That's what it looks like, which is completely fine. But if that's the
> case I think we should have another category for that kind of stuff ;)
>
>
> I think it's open to both, just as swift-users is today.  The topic name
> needs to
> encourage beginner questions because otherwise the beginners won't know
> where
> to go; experienced forum users presumably don't need that kind of direction.
>
> Are you suggesting that these ought to be split into separate categories?  I
> don't think
> I'd support that.
>
> John.



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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[John McCall via swift-evolution]

> On Dec 12, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Kelvin Ma  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This sounds great!
>>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>>> on Rust forum.
>> 
>> 
>> i always thought Using Swift was going to be more for beginner questions and
>> helping newcomers
>> 
> 
> That's what it looks like, which is completely fine. But if that's the
> case I think we should have another category for that kind of stuff ;)

I think it's open to both, just as swift-users is today.  The topic name needs 
to
encourage beginner questions because otherwise the beginners won't know where
to go; experienced forum users presumably don't need that kind of direction.

Are you suggesting that these ought to be split into separate categories?  I 
don't think
I'd support that.

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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution]

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Kelvin Ma  wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution
>  wrote:
>>
>> This sounds great!
>> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
>> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
>> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
>> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
>> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
>> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
>> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
>> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
>> on Rust forum.
>
>
> i always thought Using Swift was going to be more for beginner questions and
> helping newcomers
>

That's what it looks like, which is completely fine. But if that's the
case I think we should have another category for that kind of stuff ;)

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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Kelvin Ma via swift-evolution]

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

> This sounds great!
> Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
> have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
> where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
> similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
> include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
> alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
> together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
> like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
> on Rust forum.
>

i always thought Using Swift was going to be more for beginner questions
and helping newcomers
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Alejandro Martinez via swift-evolution]

This sounds great!
Specially the new structure, it reminds me of the Rust forums. I just
have one question, is the Using Swift category expected to be the one
where the community posts project announcements for new libraries or
similar stuff? I remember a recent thread where some people wanted to
include more libs in the standard swift distribution and one of the
alternatives considered was making it easy for the community to get
together and share new projects and even join forces. This would seem
like the perfect place for it, similar to the announcements category
on Rust forum.


On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution
 wrote:
> [Forum] merging multiple staged accounts
> 
>
> [Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters
> 
>
> -- Ben
>
>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
>>
>> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
>> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
>>
>> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
>> 
>>
>> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
>> 
>> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
>>
>> -- Ben
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution]

[Forum] merging multiple staged accounts


[Forum] importing names with non-Latin characters


-- Ben

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 06:41, Ben Rimmington wrote:
> 
> When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
> e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.
> 
> Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?
> 
> 
> Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:
> 
> e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")
> 
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Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal and Timeline for Discourse Transition

[Ben Rimmington via swift-evolution]

When claiming a staged account, can the username be changed?
e.g. Having the same "@username" on GitHub and Swift Forums.

Will people with multiple accounts be able to merge them?


Names with non-Latin characters are not imported correctly:

e.g. StringTransform("Any-Latin; Latin-ASCII; Any-Title")

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