RE: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-16 Diskussionsfäden Glogger Steven
Well, IMHO this is no better than my solution using JS What do you do if someone has cookies disabled? I for my part often reject cookies 'just because' when I dont feel they're really needed... java script is client side. it only prevents that a form can be submittet. what if you

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-16 Diskussionsfäden Viktor Steinmann
About that lynx discussion... I don't think you're losing a single customer because your websites don't support lynx. Usually people want to see a picture of the product they're buying. And then there's the aspect, of who your target-market is. Usually it's not the Linux-Geek (and even if it

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-16 Diskussionsfäden Markus Wild
Markus Wild wrote: One that is less cumbersome than the type in the word in the weird image approach is to set a cookie-like hidden parameter from the server when it generates the form (I'm assuming php or perl behind Well, IMHO this is no better than my solution using JS What do you do

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-16 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Keller
Glogger Steven wrote: Well, IMHO this is no better than my solution using JS What do you do if someone has cookies disabled? I for my part often reject cookies 'just because' when I dont feel they're really needed... java script is client side. it only prevents that a form can be

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-16 Diskussionsfäden Kirill Ponazdyr
I will never recommend PHP to a customer or even a friend; however I heard about an Apache module (by SuSE apparently) which is designed as a security layer for mod_perl and mod_php. I haven't even tried it yet, but I will the next time I need to support others' bad decisions. If you know

[swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Hertzog
Hi Folks! We're facing a growing amount of automatically generated HTTP POST requests, all containing spamvertising links like http://19.altribeati.com/homoerectus/ As far as i know, there are the following ways to handle that: a) Spamfilter of recipient shall filter that b) Web-user has

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Tonnerre LOMBARD
Salut, On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 05:35:26PM +0200, Matthias Hertzog wrote: b) Web-user has to enter a unique number (generated image) in the form to prove, he's a human being. The problem here is that spam bots are apparrently exceptionally good already at reading these characters out of the

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Keller
Jeroen Massar wrote: Matthias Hertzog wrote: Hi Folks! We're facing a growing amount of automatically generated HTTP POST requests, all containing spamvertising links like http://19.altribeati.com/homoerectus/ As far as i know, there are the following ways to handle that: Does anyone out

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Tonnerre LOMBARD
Salut, On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:19:21PM +0200, Matthias Keller wrote: One thing I have been pretty successful in blocking spam is javascript... Of course one can argue not all browser support or execute JS but today when every 3rd site completely relies on JS this is no valid point

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Daniel Kamm
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 17:35 +0200, Matthias Hertzog wrote: We're facing a growing amount of automatically generated HTTP POST requests, all containing spamvertising links We are also struggling with this issue, but not only since a few days or weeks. I get 3-6 abused forms each day! IMO it's

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Keller
Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:19:21PM +0200, Matthias Keller wrote: One thing I have been pretty successful in blocking spam is javascript... Of course one can argue not all browser support or execute JS but today when every 3rd site completely relies on JS

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

2006-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Peter Stockli
@MK: Your method implies, that the user has a javascript enabled browser, else the post would fail. This means in the end you loose customers, because they're surfing with lynx. Peter On 8/15/06, Matthias Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Tue, Aug 15, 2006