Re: [swinog] Swiss ISPs and IPv6 --- 2016 edition

[Roger Schmid]

|Come on folks, it is 2016! IPv6 is 
|*20 years* old...
But still not matured enough to put on public usage, beside of some design flaw 
it is in some cases even bad implemented

Maybe the isp/hoster/transit provider ned some teaching how to do it the right 
way.

Em 15 de setembro de 2016 06:11:44 AMT, Jeroen Massar  
escreveu:
>As there is an upcoming SwiNOG lets throw some people under the bus
>before they arrive. Or at least allow them time to come up with more
>excuses.
>
>
>Some quotes from Swiss ISPs from the Call Your ISP page:
>  https://www.sixxs.net/wiki/Call_Your_ISP_for_IPv6
>
>8<
>
>"Currently, as demand for IPv6 is very low, we have no plans to
>introduce IPv6 native.
>
>"No plans to support IPv6 for our private and SoHo clients"
>
>"The plan is to move everyone on DSLite."
>
>"Provider info: IPv6 is "planned" and soon should get a priority
>status.
>When that "soon" will be is not yet known."
>
>"They know what IPV6 is, eventually they will provide it"
>
>>8
>
>Come on folks, it is 2016! IPv6 is *20 years* old...
>
>Even Sky.uk was able to get it working[1].
>
>Oh and note: Dual-stack IPv4 + IPv6, along with a /56 per user.
>
>It is not that hard to get right and yeah, you kinda had 20 years
>already to 'plan' for this
>
>Greets,
> Jeroen
>
>
>[1]
>https://corporate.sky.com/media-centre/news-page/2016/sky-completes-roll-out-of-ipv6-becoming-the-first-major-uk-internet-provider-to-future-proof-its-service-for-customers
>
>
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Re: [swinog] Brocade MLXe: Random Linecard Reboot - anyone else?

[Silvan M. Gebhardt]

I agree this is so vague, it's more fud than anything. But I still want to see 
what actually causes these issues, across ISPs...
I hope I can catch some traffic until a reboot




- Ursprüngliche Mail -
Von: "Scott Weeks" 
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. September 2016 22:47:13
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Brocade MLXe: Random Linecard Reboot - anyone else?

--- rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
From: Rainer Duffner 
> Am 18.09.2016 um 08:11 schrieb Fredy Kuenzler :


> Friday night we observed several Brocade MLXe linecards rebooting 
> (several locations, i.e. Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Geneva), which 
> caused network instability due to flapping iBGP etc.



: Coincidence?
:
: https://twitter.com/schneierblog/status/775783898366160896
---



"Take Down the Internet"
"it feels like a large nation state...China or Russia"
"I am unable to give details"
"It feels like a nation's military cybercommand"

etc.

Seems like FUD to get viewers.  'The sky's going to fall and I can't 
tell you why or when, but I know it is.  Trust me.'  Where's the 
technical details so we  can make an informed decision, rather than 
"it feels like..."

scott































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