Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Oliver Hitz
On 10 Feb 2004, Robert Meyer wrote: that's exactly what we are about to implement at the moment. Unfortunately, it will take some more time, until we have tasted and set up everything. Besides what would you suggests for such a small one-purpose deamon (we are currently examinig Turnaway from

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, | If you don't have enough capacity to do the 5xx errors on the main | mail servers then setup another (small) machine and redirect (instead | of blocking) all connections to that box and let it emit 5xx errors. |

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, | | If you don't have enough capacity to do the 5xx errors on the main | | mail servers then setup another (small) machine and redirect (instead | | of blocking) all connections to that box and let it emit 5xx

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Robert Meyer wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:15:22PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: Daniel Lorch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert, | From 217.26.52.23: | Trying 62.2.95.11... | Connected to mx.hispeed.ch. | Escape character is

RE: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Jorge Morgado
Hi, I agree the patch is bullsh** as you call it but I've some mixed feelings about it. The fact is that I also have some applications that stop working with this patch but... having username and password in the URL doesn't seem to be a good idea nowadays. At the same time, there was some users

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi again Microsoft has released a IE patch Number 834489. This patch makes URLs like http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED] unusable. Since we have a few applications (intranets, closed user groups, a.s.o) running which use this kind of verification, our customers are running into problems after

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi | Please don't start any political (Anti-MS) discussions now. I fully agree, | that this MS patch is pure bullshit. I'm very interested in your points of | view and possible _technical_ solutions in that. believe it or not - this makes IE more RFC

Re: [swinog] Cablecom, Hispeed and Swissonline

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi I was not able to follow the tracks entirely unfortunately I was away for a couple of days :) We are experiencing problems sending to hispeed / swissonline. But of course there have been so many postings about this issue, it is quite hard to find the right mail in the mailinglist archives now.

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Fabian Wenk
Hello Matthias Matthias Hertzog wrote: Microsoft has released a IE patch Number 834489. This patch makes URLs like http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED] unusable. Since we have a few The Patch is named KB832894 (or Q832894 in the IE Help/About Internet Explorer Screen), see here:

[swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Pascal Gloor
Dear SwiNOGers, [AGENDA] After a long and hard work, we can finally publish the definitive SwiNOG-8 meeting agenda. http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog8/swinog8_agenda-txt.txt [REGISTRATION] We're always trying to allow everyone to join the meeting. In the past it happended once that we had

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Steven Glogger
After a long and hard work, we can finally publish the definitive SwiNOG-8 meeting agenda. http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog8/swinog8_agenda-txt.txt looks good :) where is the location? same as last time or back to the kreuz? We have been discussing about this subject in the past on the

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Guentensperger, Robert
Title: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration) Pascal, I think bigger companies should be able to send all these people as long as there are no other companies not being able to attend because of them. The amount of people not working in that company shouldn't be your/our

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi | You don't have to use NAT for that. There are for more clever | ways of redirecting. enlighten me. daniel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Steven Glogger
i thinks it's more painfull if you deny the coffee to them :)) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Lorch Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Steven Glogger
(resend, sorry for duplicates if there are, but it seems that mailinglist dropped mail?) -Original Message- From: Steven Glogger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration) After

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Wasn't there a way to fix this in the registry? The main beef I have with this patch is that it turns all '@' in the url into 'bad syntax'. Contrary to what most people think, having a username in the url does NOT violate any RFCs. 2396 just recommends against passwords in the URL, but it does

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Steven Glogger
this one also... -Original Message- From: Steven Glogger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration) what i forgot: maybe cablecom (as possible sponsor?) could make a short

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Roger Buchwalder
Hi i think the user/pwd in the url isn't a good idea. (other ppl on the pc - ie-history...) i would rewrite (or add an add-in) the website, with a loggin on it. and with a db, you'll have an nice controll... Rog Matthias Hertzog schrieb: Hi there! Microsoft has released a IE patch Number

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Steven Glogger
you have one little mistake: Take: - Some cold beer (don't be stingy with beer!) - your whole female work-force And then: Send all this to the next BE-Event. it should be: Take: - contact with organisator (or organize one yourself) - org. will arrange place in best (and for cablecom the

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Hi Roger, sorry if I was unclear--I fully agree with you that, except in some very exotic circumstances (I can't currently think of any) web pages shouldn't need this kind of authentication. You're absolutely correct about being to use other authentication mechanisms that do not rely on

Re: [swinog] PGP Key Signing?

2004-02-10 Thread Ihsan Dogan
Hi, On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 01:55, Daniel Lorch wrote: | http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html to summarize, and please correct me if I omitted anything: Preparation === - - Send your fingerprint to coordinator. You can retrieve ~ your ID with the following

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi ok, improved version 1. our fake smtpd server, save as smtpd.sh #!/bin/sh echo '220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP' read input echo '550 Not today, spam-dude' exit 0 2. inetd.conf (or use it with daemontools/ucspi-tcp) 1025stream tcp nowait nobody /path/to/smtpd.sh 3.

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi that's exactly what we are about to implement at the moment. Unfortunately, it will take some more time, until we have tasted and set up everything. Besides what would you suggests for such a small one-purpose deamon (we are currently examinig Turnaway from

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Matthias Hertzog
Hi John Registry-Fix can be downloaded at http://www.mhs.ch/mhsservices/patch.shtml Matthias - Original Message - From: John Morgan Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, |How about tcpserver from http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html | | tcpserver -H 0 25 echo 451 Go away | | | Be careful, not every mail server accepts such an answer in | the greeting string. You have to provide 5xx answers to | mail from attempts as

Re: [swinog] PGP Key Signing?

2004-02-10 Thread Oliver Hitz
On 10 Feb 2004, Ihsan Dogan wrote: - - Send your fingerprint to coordinator. You can retrieve ~ your ID with the following command: Okay, who is now organizing the PGP key signing session? We have plenty of time left for this until SwiNOG8. I'll post some info next week after having

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Andre Oppermann
Daniel Lorch wrote: hi ok, improved version 1. our fake smtpd server, save as smtpd.sh #!/bin/sh echo '220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP' read input echo '550 Not today, spam-dude' exit 0 There are many mailservers out there which do not recognize a 550 in the HELO/EHLO

Re: [swinog] Mass mailing: how to do it nicely?

2004-02-10 Thread Markus Wild
Do big ISP have security systems, which blacklist or return a SMTP 55x after getting n*1000 mails from the same server? You'll be automatically blocked for a day if you send us more than a (low) amount of non-existant recipients (which easily happens if your customer doesn't keep a clean list

Re: [swinog] PGP Key Signing?

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi |Okay, who is now organizing the PGP key signing session? | | | We have plenty of time left for this until SwiNOG8. I'll post some info | next week after having attended http://www.rubin.ch/pgp/kspa/200402/ I would do it, or do you wanna, Oliver?

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi There's now a company with 11 registered people. I'm not sure the company itself will appreciate that, but that's not really my/our problem. I just wanted to point this out and open a discussion about it. On my point of view, even 5-6 ppl from the same company is ok, not sure about 11. What do

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG #8 update (agenda registration)

2004-02-10 Thread Steven Glogger
what i forgot: maybe cablecom (as possible sponsor?) could make a short presenation (5-10minutes?) about their we-do-put-all-networks-on-blacklist-filter-techniques :) -steven -Original Message- From: Steven Glogger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:54 PM To:

Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed

2004-02-10 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, There are many mailservers out there which do not recognize a 550 in the HELO/EHLO answer. They will only give up when they get a 550 on either the MAIL FROM or RCPT TO command. I think we're getting there. Here is an improved version with just one caveat: When run through inetd it doesn't

Re: [swinog] Microsoft Internet Explorer Patch 834489

2004-02-10 Thread Thomas Hug
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:01, John Morgan Salomon wrote: The problem with Mozilla (although I use it under FreeBSD) is that it can be p***-slow on Windows boxes. Rather use Opera if you want a nice fast browser (and don't mind non-freeware.) Browser religious wars, here we go :) google is

Re: [swinog] Mass mailing: how to do it nicely?

2004-02-10 Thread Olivier M.
Hi Markus thanks for your feedback! On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 04:32:32PM +0100, Markus Wild wrote: Do big ISP have security systems, which blacklist or return a SMTP 55x after getting n*1000 mails from the same server? You'll be automatically blocked for a day if you send us more than a

Return 550 was: [Re: [swinog] Contacts Swissonline / Hispeed]

2004-02-10 Thread Maik Kuendig
Hallo, Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Not sure where to look for the bug. When executed manually this problem does not show up. Any bash/inetd-gurus here? :) Not realy guru, but I have get it to run on OpenBSD3.4/alpha/current, but I had to change some things. The problem was that

Re: [swinog] Mass mailing: how to do it nicely?

2004-02-10 Thread Markus Wild
You'll be automatically blocked for a day if you send us more than a (low) amount of non-existant recipients (which easily happens if... nice concept, should be quite practical against dictionnary Exactly, this was the prime reason for coming up with it, because I was just sick of watching

[swinog] [JOB] Netcloud looking for CCIEs

2004-02-10 Thread Nicolas FISCHBACH
Hi all, I'm just playing the proxy here: Netcloud (NetworkSecurity Consulting company based in Winterthur) is looking for two CCIEs. More details and contact information: http://www.netcloud.ch/80_jobs/ Nico. -- Nicolas FISCHBACH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.securite.org/nico/ Senior Manager -

[swinog] Re: [swinog] Should IDN (äöüé etc.) domains be postponed? [statement from switch]

2004-02-10 Thread Olivier M.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:48:42PM +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: http://www.reisen.ch/idn/ sorry, currently only german. But interesting topic. F. And here the statement from Switch from yesterday about this issue (see below). I guess three will be many people online on 1st March at

Re: [swinog] Mass mailing: how to do it nicely?

2004-02-10 Thread Olivier M.
Wow, thx for the detailled answer! Also working late I see... :) On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 10:33:00PM +0100, Markus Wild wrote: It's a custom modification to sendmail-8.12.10. My recent conversion of the previous berkeley-db based approach to a central MySQL db for storing the records of

Re: [swinog] Mass mailing: how to do it nicely?

2004-02-10 Thread Raffael Marty
There are so many people around (network experts, ISP abuse officiers, mta/(djb)dns specialists, students, etc): I belive there is the potential to build something interesting And this could be a good topic for a Semesterarbeit/Diplomarbeit if there are some FH/ETH teachers reading...

[swinog] Mail Delivery System

2004-02-10 Thread lists . nik
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Re: [swinog] Mail Delivery System

2004-02-10 Thread Hannes Pfeiffer
Hello People, why isn't there a spam/virus filter for those things? Would be a great idea. ;-) On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 07:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q04ncTluoc6I8q^s;nNcp2^EM3;]u~d6l^`w_;pB*o$i}*(aG ]iW1U0mUwk)6|~J\|6P~ al0(`

[swinog] Umstellung ADSL-Geschwindigkeit = Probleme mit ISDN-Splitter

2004-02-10 Thread Zalaba, Mike
Swisscom bestätigt Probleme mit Splittern und Microfiltern bei Speed-Update: Dear BBCS customer During the past couple of day's we have had a number issues with ADSL connections not running anymore after the migration from 600/100 to 1200/200 has been carried out. We are still

R: [swinog] Umstellung ADSL-Geschwindigkeit = Probleme mit ISDN-Splitter

2004-02-10 Thread Manuel Wenger
As you can see, the speed upgrade doesn't actually *break* the filter/splitter. They just *assume* that on some lines, where the quality already was marginal before upgrading, it doesn't work anymore because the filter's/splitter's attenuation is too high.   This is very different from saying