count to one of ours and everything
> worked fine
> afterwards.
>
> Best wishes,
> Matthias
>
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> Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin SMTP p
worked fine
afterwards.
Best wishes,
Matthias
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Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin SMTP
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Hello
I
had to check first, thus the late answer
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:56:13 +0100
Daniel Roethlisberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think - mayby I'm wrong - this thread (SPF +/-) should move to the spam-list.
Ueli
> Claudio Jeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-10T00:00]:
> > First of all it is broken or breaks many valid applications. e.g
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 10:22 +0100, Beat Rubischon wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Am 10.11.04 schrieb Jeroen Massar:
> Both, ?all and ~all means the same as no SPF-Record.
>
> Is it worth to enter such a bullshit into a DNS? Is it a good
> advertising for SPF to show such records? I think not.
So much for
Hello!
Am 10.11.04 schrieb Jeroen Massar:
> $ dig +short aol.com txt
> ?all
> $ dig +short gmail.com txt
> ?all
"SPF queries that do not match any other mechanism will return
"neutral". Messages that are not sent from an approved server
should still be accepted as if the SPF record did not exis
Claudio Jeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-10T00:00]:
> First of all it is broken or breaks many valid applications. e.g.
> forwarding does not work correctly and user that are forced to use
> some smtp proxy will have issues too.
And then there are those who still believe open relays are the righ
Simon Leinen wrote:
> > When they have solved it,
>
> Maybe there's nothing to solve here...
What about fixing the documentation (eg
http://spf.pobox.com/mechanisms.html#ip6)
and then also all the tools using it ;)
Claudio Jeker wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 11:38:56PM +0100, Peter Keel wro
Daniel KammSent:
Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:14 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [swinog] Bluewin SMTP
proxy?
Could anyone of Bluewin please make a statement
about some changes in customers SMTP level?
We have many customers which cannot connect to
their mailserver @Hostpoint via ESMTP. I
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 11:38:56PM +0100, Peter Keel wrote:
> * on the Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 08:49:25PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> > Porbably you did not notice but SPF is dead.
> > So let it rest in peace.
>
> Standards aren't made just because some working-group decides on it
> (or not). Besi
* on the Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 08:49:25PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> Porbably you did not notice but SPF is dead.
> So let it rest in peace.
Standards aren't made just because some working-group decides on it
(or not). Besides, Wasn't it Sender-ID that was killed? Explain.
Seegras
(has SPF-re
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 04:15:32PM +0100, Philipp Morger wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 13:19:48 +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > been logged from the same host and signed by the same PGP key. If
> > somebody sends a silly message sounding to be from me (yes, this sadly
> > has happened by some si
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 16:15 +0100, Philipp Morger wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 13:19:48 +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > been logged from the same host and signed by the same PGP key. If
> > somebody sends a silly message sounding to be from me (yes, this sadly
> > has happened by some sick pers
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 13:19:48 +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> been logged from the same host and signed by the same PGP key. If
> somebody sends a silly message sounding to be from me (yes, this sadly
> has happened by some sick persons) I can quite easily claim it was not
well, you sound like a c
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 12:04:03 +0100, Roger Schmid wrote:
> ASMTP is a nearly useless solution, since most users using outlook
> and other Mailclients which are storing passwords.. any worm should
> be able to use the cached passwords.. or using mapi to send worms
shure, but the worm will only
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On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 12:04 +0100, Roger Schmid wrote:
> ASMTP is a nearly useless solution, since most users using outlook
> and other Mailclients which are storing passwords.. any worm should
> be able to use the cached passwords.. or using mapi to send worms
> thru outlook which of course wil
ASMTP is a nearly useless solution, since most users using outlook
and other Mailclients which are storing passwords.. any worm should
be able to use the cached passwords.. or using mapi to send worms
thru outlook which of course will authenticate with the cached
password in the background.
.
C
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 11:26 +0100, Roger Schmid wrote:
> This will be hopefully standard in the future ;-)
>
>
> >
> > Could anyone of Bluewin please make a statement about some changes in
> > customers SMTP
> > level?
> >
> > We have many customers which cannot connect to their mailserver @H
No, it hopefully won't - and _if/when_ SPF (or anything like that)
will be implemented world wide you can't filter smtp traffic. Because
the customer has to authenticate himself at _his_ mailserver. But as I
heard: Cablecom is enforcing ASMTP on all customers - that's a good
move, and hopefully so
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 11:26 +0100, Roger Schmid wrote:
> This will be hopefully standard in the future ;-)
yes, but only when *everybody* will have SPF entries
in their DNS :)
Olivier
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This will be hopefully standard in the future ;-)
>
> Could anyone of Bluewin please make a statement about some changes in
> customers SMTP
> level?
>
> We have many customers which cannot connect to their mailserver @Hostpoint
> via ESMTP. I
> suppose, a transparent SMTP proxy filters all
Could anyone of Bluewin please make a statement
about some changes in customers SMTP level?
We have many customers which cannot connect to
their mailserver @Hostpoint via ESMTP. I suppose, a transparent SMTP proxy
filters all the Port 25 traffic.
Thank you in advance
- Dan
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