Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-03 Thread Felix Rauch
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Folken wrote: And they'll probably scream for port filtering at provider level. Well, why not? (This is a serious question, I don't know if it's actually possible or financially sustainable.) (I have to add here that I didn't see the Kassensturz broadcasting) What if

RE: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-03 Thread Bartholdi Stephan
Hi all Well, as so often, this is not a technical problem, but more how to sell it to our customers. If we guide our customers gently to the fact that there is some security needed on the internet, there should not be a problem. After that we can suggest the next actions. Now the only question

RE: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-03 Thread John Morgan Salomon
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:53:05 +0100 Subject: RE: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz Hi all Well, as so often, this is not a technical problem, but more how to sell it to our customers. If we guide our customers gently to the fact that there is some security needed on the internet

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-03 Thread Fabian Wenk
Hello Felix Felix Rauch wrote: What if providers would block access from the outside to the ports most often used by viri, worms, script kiddies and spammers? Wouldn't So all the 65536 ports soon will be blocked. In the beginning of this year I had the chance to analyze several hacked windows

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-03 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:41:55AM +0100, Felix Rauch wrote: With such a setup, the customers which don't know anything about the internet would be at least somewhat safer (depending on the implementation of the filtering), while the power users (which are able to maintain their

[swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Michel Renfer
Wanna read the appropriate article to the Kassensturz of tonight? http://www2.sfdrs.ch/system/frames/highlights/kassensturz/index.php?url=/content/highlights/kassensturz/kassensturz/beitrag.php3?beitragid=730 Sicherheitslücken im Internet: Freier Zugang auf Privates Darüber reden

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Erich Hohermuth
Ups ;-) Security done by Kassensturz. On Tuesday 02 March 2004 14:34, Michel Renfer wrote: Wanna read the appropriate article to the Kassensturz of tonight? http://www2.sfdrs.ch/system/frames/highlights/kassensturz/index.php?url

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread John Morgan Salomon
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:45:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz Ups ;-) Security done by Kassensturz. On Tuesday 02 March 2004 14:34, Michel Renfer wrote: Wanna read the appropriate article to the Kassensturz of tonight? http://www2.sfdrs.ch/system

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
John Morgan Salomon wrote: /me wonders how long some cretin from the Blick will start screaming how ISPs should be held legally responsible for end-customer workstation security. /me does not want to consider rewriting AGB and service contracts :-( F.

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Erich Hohermuth
Some background information: http://www.cnlab.ch/kassensturz/ -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Roger Schmid
workstation security. -John (thinking that now I might be able to register Börger-King.ch) -- Original Message --- From: Erich Hohermuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:45:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz Ups ;-) Security done

Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Nik Hug
golden times ahead .. i thinking more and more about my future will be on a farm and taking care of cow's and sheep's do you already take applications for cropdusters or so? I think sooner or later I need a healthier job than this. Greetings Nik --

RE: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Kuster, Christian
Title: RE: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz bulletproofed windows, all for free Bulletproof Windows ? Neverimpossible for free ?? Hey, this is Micro$oft lol Christian

RE: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz

2004-03-02 Thread Steven Glogger
cents.. -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander Bochmann Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] FW: Kassensturz ...on Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 03:20:45PM +, John Morgan Salomon