RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread Steven Glogger
hi andre My position is this: If you run any kind of free-dial service where you don't have any direct identification or signed contract with your customer, then you almost must run some kind of SPAM-block. If you don't do free-dial service and you have identification of your customer and

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread Erich Hohermuth
On Thursday 30 October 2003 09:16, Steven Glogger wrote: I agree fully with your position. this is also the same position i have. maybe we should consider, that if you provder free-dial services (without identification of customer) to block SMTP completely. Why not ? There could be another

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread Steven Glogger
hi erich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erich Hohermuth Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:49 AM Full ack. We all know since Swinog 7, that Free could mean Free Beer or Freedom... this leads me to the question if the internet is GPL

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread Peter Keel
* on the Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 09:56:46AM +0100, Steven Glogger wrote: this leads me to the question if the internet is GPL or public domain? or is it unter M$ license (aarghs) Its under a BSD-License. So feel free to put up an alternate commercial internet ;) Seegras -- Those who give up

AW: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread Roman Hochuli
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Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Peter Keel wrote: You're mixing up two issues: * Free or Unregistered dialup * Situations where you know your customer. Anybody using free dialups must cope with certain restrictions, But you said 'Free' or 'Unregistered' dialup. Someone earlier mentioned DSL/cable connections. Are

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread Matthias Leisi
* Free or Unregistered dialup * Situations where you know your customer. Anybody using free dialups must cope with certain restrictions, But you said 'Free' or 'Unregistered' dialup. Someone earlier mentioned DSL/cable connections. Are those what you'd consider 'unregistered'? I'd agree with

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-30 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Common Carrier in the sense that someone is obliged to offer certain types of connectivity: No, not for Internet (some issues with Swisscom and Voice [Grundversorgungsauftrag] do not concern Data traffic, although this may change with the upcoming revision of telecommunication law

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Andre Oppermann
Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: PS. Looking forward: When do we start implementing RMX (Reverse Mail Exchange) records in DNS, following the IETF proposal? And then: Don't add entries on your complete IP net block, just the designated SMTP servers please... RMX doesn't work in real life. -- Andre

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: PS. Looking forward: When do we start implementing RMX (Reverse Mail Exchange) records in DNS, following the IETF proposal

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Markus Wild
Next use either connection limiting features (such as FreeBSD ipfw2) Just one word of caution on this one: I've had this activated on our mail server (IPFW2 in 4.x-STABLE) a couple of months ago, and it lead to very odd memory corruption issues (panics that _all_ looked like hardware problems,

RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Kurt A. Schumacher
] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: Tend to suggest the implementation of mac based machines (e.g. Nomadix Service Engine) for dial-up customers - hey, no problems with DHCP, accidentally fixed IP addresses ...and every SMTP port 25 traffic

Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt becauseof Spam blocks

2003-10-29 Thread Andre Oppermann
Kurt A. Schumacher wrote: SMTP-AUTH (plain text and preferably CRAM-MD5), SMTPafterPOP or similar are highly encouraged for any SMTP server - otherwise another dial-up IP will be listed on the RBLs very soon and the value of your private server becomes very limited ;-) Again NO reason for