Dear community,
something important for us happened today that may have some impact on our
daily business.
Our Federal Court just decided that IP addresses are personal data and the
federal law about data protection must also be followed also for IP addresses.
Collecting IP adresses for
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wouldn't that render the usage of google analytics illegal?
Silvan
Am 08.09.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Pascal Gloor:
Dear community,
something important for us happened today that may have some impact on our
daily business.
Our Federal Court
The BGE number of that court decision would be helpful...
Thanks,
Juerg
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Am 08.09.2010 um 13:57 schrieb Viktor
Hi,
How does this affect Blacklist- and Whitelist vendors or organisations like
dnswl.org or our swinog blacklists ?
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On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 13:57 +0200, Viktor Steinmann wrote:
I haven't decided yet, if that's a good thing or not. But could you
point us to an online source for this news? Google isn't very helpful at
the moment.
In french:
i think there will be some Common sense in this point, as it is quite
different to collect and sell this kind of datas, and to use them as
stats tools (have a look at the numerous fidelity cards we can find
anywhere).
also maybe a publicly available stat... i dont know, but sounds like
I'm trying to make a list of all possible implications/problems that this
ruling can make. Please send me a direct mail with your questions and I will
forward them to a good lawyer (actually, the one involved in that case).
So far, questions/implications I've seen or came to me are:
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I think it's far too early to jump into conclusions right now. The court
didn't even state it's reasons in detail. As far as I understand it right
now, this does only mean one has to take care about data that contains ip
addresses - but not, that such data processing would be a legal problem at
I think it's far too early to jump into conclusions right now. The court
didn't even state it's reasons in detail. As far as I understand it right
now, this does only mean one has to take care about data that contains ip
addresses - but not, that such data processing would be a legal problem
Well actually it does - the processing of protected data requires a
legal foundation or agreement of the person identified by that data.
See DSG Art. 4 Abs. 1 and 4
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/235_1/a4.html
Since IP addresses are now schützenswerte Daten, processing these is
subject to the laws of
Well, the court doesn't state anything in detail in a press release. It's
in
the court decision document. But we're off-topic I think. Lets just
aggregate
all open questions and I'll get answers from a qualified person, a lawyer,
not techies like us ;-)
What I ment is, why not wait until the
If IPs are protected information, so how is this handled in E-Mails,
on mailing-lists like this and alike?
Have messages to be stripped off IPs before they are delivered?
Who's legally responsible for protecting the data?
Just an example: Company X could scan all header information from
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To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
If IPs are protected information, so how is this handled in E-Mails,
on mailing-lists like this and alike?
very simple: all mailing lists are now illegal. As well as all IP routers.
If IPs are protected information, so how is this handled in E-Mails,
on mailing-lists like this and alike?
very simple: all mailing lists are now illegal. As well as all IP routers.
Not at all. (Otherwise all telephony operators would also be illegal). As for
the mail headers, its an open
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