Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
I finally got access to the beta program at Twilio, but they only offer numbers which can receive SMS (079) or voice (landline), but not both at the same time. In other countries, I found such numbers only in UK and US. Nexmo.com offers Swiss numbers with the same limitations, but the SMS-enabled numbers have Sunrise prefixes (076). Probably someone with telephony insight can explain why the virtual Swiss mobile numbers can only receive SMS and not voice? On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@k-open.com wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Up to now I found several service providers like aspsms.com which can only receive SMS on their virtual numbers, but no voice calls. Twilio.com promises such numbers, but Swiss numbers are only available for beta users (waiting for them to enable my beta program access). Any other suggestions? I would also be interested in an Italian number for similar purpose. Italy is not on the list at Twilio yet. cheers, -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: Per, I propose that first you actually try it before telling. Hi Stanislav you're right, I haven't tried receiving an SMS with Asterisk yet, but do you see any reason why I shouldn't be able to receive SMS on my fixnet line (when it's been correctly set up in Asterisk) ? For the last 2-3 years, I have been getting the occasional message read out to me by Swisscom. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
well, last time I tried, it was only possible to send an SMS from a Swisscom mobile to a Swisscom fixline. SIP providers were out of scope, and non-Swisscom GSM providers were too. Probably it's slightly changed, but I don't see any SMS offering from any SIP provider in Switzerland. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: Per, I propose that first you actually try it before telling. Hi Stanislav you're right, I haven't tried receiving an SMS with Asterisk yet, but do you see any reason why I shouldn't be able to receive SMS on my fixnet line (when it's been correctly set up in Asterisk) ? For the last 2-3 years, I have been getting the occasional message read out to me by Swisscom. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
On 2014-11-13 09:58, Per Jessen wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: Per, I propose that first you actually try it before telling. Hi Stanislav you're right, I haven't tried receiving an SMS with Asterisk yet, but do you see any reason why I shouldn't be able to receive SMS on my fixnet line (when it's been correctly set up in Asterisk) ? For the last 2-3 years, I have been getting the occasional message read out to me by Swisscom. A Fritz!Box, connected to a UPC/Cablecom line, that is connected in turn to FreeSWITCH works too ;) That combo (can swap out UPC with Swisscom) gives you both voice and SMS inbound+outbound, no tricks. A lot of people would find it weird to see a SMS from a hardline number though. Greets, Jeroen ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: well, last time I tried, it was only possible to send an SMS from a Swisscom mobile to a Swisscom fixline. We send SMS'es every day the other way, i.e. from fixline to mobile. This is via ISDN though. SIP providers were out of scope, and non-Swisscom GSM providers were too. Probably it's slightly changed, but I don't see any SMS offering from any SIP provider in Switzerland. Sorry, I missed out that this was with SIP. I've just reviewed our Asterisk config, and we do have a config for receiving SMS'es, but it's been inactive for a couple of years. I also don't see any way of distinguishing between a voice call and an SMS, but I'll have to look closer. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
Per Jessen wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: well, last time I tried, it was only possible to send an SMS from a Swisscom mobile to a Swisscom fixline. We send SMS'es every day the other way, i.e. from fixline to mobile. This is via ISDN though. SIP providers were out of scope, and non-Swisscom GSM providers were too. Probably it's slightly changed, but I don't see any SMS offering from any SIP provider in Switzerland. Sorry, I missed out that this was with SIP. I've just reviewed our Asterisk config, and we do have a config for receiving SMS'es, but it's been inactive for a couple of years. I also don't see any way of distinguishing between a voice call and an SMS, but I'll have to look closer. Incoming callerid == SMSC. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: well, last time I tried, it was only possible to send an SMS from a Swisscom mobile to a Swisscom fixline. Have just confirmed that, yes. I tried from two other mobile providers, they didn't work, but with Swisscom it worked. ... which renders the service completely useless :) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Any fixnet line with Asterisk on will also do it. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
Per, I propose that first you actually try it before telling. For some mysterious reason, the VoIP providers don't know anything about this :) On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Any fixnet line with Asterisk on will also do it. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
On 2014-11-11 16:04, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Up to now I found several service providers like aspsms.com which can only receive SMS on their virtual numbers, but no voice calls. Twilio.com promises such numbers, but Swiss numbers are only available for beta users (waiting for them to enable my beta program access). Any other suggestions? Any standard SIP provider should work, eg my prefered one: netvoip.ch Asterisk details: http://www.anveo.com/faq.asp?code=sip_asterisk_sms Greets, Jeroen ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
Jeroen, I strongly disagree. Most SIP providers do not support SMS at all. netvoip.ch does not offer any SMS support. Anveo.com offers SMS support in only a few countries: http://www.anveo.com/mainphonenumbers.asp On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Jeroen Massar jer...@massar.ch wrote: On 2014-11-11 16:04, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Up to now I found several service providers like aspsms.com which can only receive SMS on their virtual numbers, but no voice calls. Twilio.com promises such numbers, but Swiss numbers are only available for beta users (waiting for them to enable my beta program access). Any other suggestions? Any standard SIP provider should work, eg my prefered one: netvoip.ch Asterisk details: http://www.anveo.com/faq.asp?code=sip_asterisk_sms Greets, Jeroen -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
as suggested by a colleague, www.nexmo.com looks promising. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@k-open.com wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Up to now I found several service providers like aspsms.com which can only receive SMS on their virtual numbers, but no voice calls. Twilio.com promises such numbers, but Swiss numbers are only available for beta users (waiting for them to enable my beta program access). Any other suggestions? I would also be interested in an Italian number for similar purpose. Italy is not on the list at Twilio yet. cheers, -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
On 2014-11-11 20:03, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: Jeroen, I strongly disagree. Most SIP providers do not support SMS at all. Quite likely as they do voice primarily as that is where the money is. Also, folks who have SIP have Internet and typically do not care about SMS anymore as well, they have IP. But there might be some out there that do. netvoip.ch does not offer any SMS support. Could be, I do not use it for that. Greets, Jeroen ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?
but... nexmo offers numbers which can either receive only SMS or only voice, but not both at the same number: https://help.nexmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/204015043-Inbound-Reach-List-Who-can-send-SMS-to-my-Inbound-Nexmo-Number- On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@k-open.com wrote: as suggested by a colleague, www.nexmo.com looks promising. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@k-open.com wrote: hi all, I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider. Up to now I found several service providers like aspsms.com which can only receive SMS on their virtual numbers, but no voice calls. Twilio.com promises such numbers, but Swiss numbers are only available for beta users (waiting for them to enable my beta program access). Any other suggestions? I would also be interested in an Italian number for similar purpose. Italy is not on the list at Twilio yet. cheers, -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
