Re: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service
Title: R: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service So one would suspect that in this case the big boys are not doing this due to carrier preselect and canibalisation of their exisiting revenue streams via PSTN calls. SIP/H.323 is not really the issue, nor the fact that one can already chose between a wide selection of SIP providers, I'm really focusing on bundled ADSL + VoIP service in CH with either a softphone, VoIP to POTS adapter or IP Phone and how people are providing guaranteed service in the last mile so that the VoIP between the end user and the ISP is available without service impact to due trafic patterns (DoS, circuit saturation, etc..) Thomas - Original Message - From: Manuel Wenger To: swinog@swinog.ch Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: R: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service We offer a SIP based service which is not restricted to our network, but of course ADSL customers can use it, and it works quite well: http://www.ticinocom.com/digitel I don't see why SFWS shouldn't authorise the use of SIP on BBCS, you basically can transport whatever data you like over the network. Regards -Manuel -Messaggio originale- Da: Thomas Kernen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: martedì, 11. gennaio 2005 13:40 A: swinog@swinog.ch Oggetto: Re: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service I noticed that IP Worldcom seem to also provide a SIP based service but that it is not restricted to their network and that anyone can join as long as they have a SIP enabled phone. Note that the info is in french http://www.worldcom.ch/ Still doesn't tell me if FixNet Wholesale does authorise the use of their network for this type of service or not.
Re: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service
I noticed that IP Worldcom seem to also provide a SIP based service but that it is not restricted to their network and that anyone can join as long as they have a SIP enabled phone. Note that the info is in french http://www.worldcom.ch/ Still doesn't tell me if FixNet Wholesale does authorise the use of their network for this type of service or not. T - Original Message - From: "Steven Glogger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: RE: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service seems to be a bluewin customer, also reseller? does swisscom/bluewin is now able to give guarantees on adsl? ;-) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marc SCHAEFER Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:45 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 04:19:15PM +0100, Thomas Kernen wrote: > Question to the clueful, has anyone played with VoIP over Swisscom's > ADSL/Bitstream infrastructure? I mean either with an ATA like adapter to a > POTS device or directly with a VoIP enabled end device (IP Phone). At least one company, Intertel, resells ADSL lines and ensures good enough quality to replace an E1 to their H.323 or SIP server, at least that's what the say. http://www.intertel.ch/ I haven't yet tried Voice-over-IP on ADSL yet. (Not affiliated with them; however having worked with them on a very small project). ___ swinog mailing list swinog@swinog.ch http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@swinog.ch http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@swinog.ch http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service
seems to be a bluewin customer, also reseller? does swisscom/bluewin is now able to give guarantees on adsl? ;-) -steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Marc SCHAEFER > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:45 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 04:19:15PM +0100, Thomas Kernen wrote: > > Question to the clueful, has anyone played with VoIP over Swisscom's > > ADSL/Bitstream infrastructure? I mean either with an ATA like > adapter to a > > POTS device or directly with a VoIP enabled end device (IP Phone). > > At least one company, Intertel, resells ADSL lines and ensures good > enough quality to replace an E1 to their H.323 or SIP server, > at least that's what the say. > >http://www.intertel.ch/ > > I haven't yet tried Voice-over-IP on ADSL yet. > > (Not affiliated with them; however having worked with them on a very small > project). > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@swinog.ch > http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@swinog.ch http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] VoIP & Swisscom bitstream (ADSL) service
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 04:19:15PM +0100, Thomas Kernen wrote: > Question to the clueful, has anyone played with VoIP over Swisscom's > ADSL/Bitstream infrastructure? I mean either with an ATA like adapter to a > POTS device or directly with a VoIP enabled end device (IP Phone). At least one company, Intertel, resells ADSL lines and ensures good enough quality to replace an E1 to their H.323 or SIP server, at least that's what the say. http://www.intertel.ch/ I haven't yet tried Voice-over-IP on ADSL yet. (Not affiliated with them; however having worked with them on a very small project). ___ swinog mailing list swinog@swinog.ch http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
