Re: [sword-devel] Module Submission

2017-02-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/23/2017 04:27 PM, Matt Zabojnik wrote: > > Any feedback on this? I see several of y'all have downloaded. Is this > thing Go for launch? > It's fine, but as you said, you just replaced the images with higher-def versions - the bdt, dat, and idx content is identical and the .conf diff is only

Re: [sword-devel] Release Wrapup

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 02:23 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Karl? I feel like he prefers C I write C++ literally every day. But you interact with me only re: Xiphos, which is half C++, half C, and the boundary is unclean. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] Lucene Complaint

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 03:10 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > The version currently packaged in Fedora is 1.2.24. Scratch other response -- got confused between mentions of clucene and xapian. Duh. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Lucene Complaint

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 03:10 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > The version currently packaged in Fedora is 1.2.24. Something is confused. 2.3.3.4 here, along with retro 0.9.21b. $ egrep '^(|mingw.*)clucene' /var/log/rpmpkgs clucene09-core-0.9.21b-16.fc24.i686.rpm clucene09-core-0.9.21b-16.fc24.x86_64.rpm

Re: [sword-devel] Lucene Complaint

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 02:54 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Xapian is the new default at svn head I experimented with Xapian in Xiphos a couple years ago. The indices it creates are of horrifyingly monstrous size. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] Lucene Complaint

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 12:25 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > This is going to necessitate dropping the package from the MinGW > builds of Sword that I maintain for Fedora which will make future > releases of Xiphos for Windows incapable of offering Lucene based > searching. I will keep using "outdated" MinGW

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire Beta | Updates | English | (Easton, Smith, StrongsGreek, StrongsHebrew) ?

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 08:36 AM, David Haslam wrote: > he dictionary modules StrongsRealGreek and StrongsRealHebrew in > the Xiphos repository are each what one might call a "superset" of > StrongsGreek and StrongsHebrew ? I have no idea of the provenance or content of Strongs{Greek,Hebrew}. My

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire Beta | Updates | English | (Easton, Smith, StrongsGreek, StrongsHebrew) ?

2017-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/21/2017 07:14 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > I suppose we could simply move them over and see who complains. That novel attitude could be applied as well to NASB, and has been suggested exactly as such repeatedly in the past. But the naysayers have prevailed every time the matter has come

Re: [sword-devel] Module Submission

2017-02-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/20/2017 11:16 AM, David Haslam wrote: > I went on to search my modules email folder for "Smith Bible Atlas" and found > nothing. SmithBibleAtlas is a simple maps module that I made, Xiphos repo, available since 2008. ___ sword-devel mailing

Re: [sword-devel] Testing Copyrighted Modules

2017-02-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/15/2017 06:44 PM, Matt Zabojnik wrote: > What's the best way to go about this? If it works on some platforms, > should I assume it works everywhere? No, you shouldn't. There's really no substitute for getting them into as many UIs as you can. I have had a number of similarly restricted

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword can speak!

2017-02-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/10/2017 05:48 PM, TS wrote: > The Screen reader version, for example, will pronounce the "L" in > "LORD" as a separate word and then "ORD" as the following word whereas > selecting the words themselves and having them spoken will not have > that problem. That indicates that the former is

Re: [sword-devel] Interlinear modules?

2017-01-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/13/2017 07:11 AM, David Haslam wrote: > It seem that we never really came through with a solution to support a > genuine interlinear Bible module. Xiphos would correctly display an interlinear text today if the alternate/parallel language was encoded as lemmatization.

Re: [sword-devel] anniversaries

2017-01-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/09/2017 08:47 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > I'm pretty sure the Lockman Foundation is not actually interested in > releasing the NASB on Sword. You misunderstand. There has been a Lockman-sanctioned NASB in progress since 2004. ___

[sword-devel] anniversaries

2017-01-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Today, NASB has been waiting 13 years. NASB was last asked about just this past weekend: [2017-01-08 01:34:20] <[nDy]> I am assuming that the NASB is not available on xiphos? It has been 2 years 13 days since last (1.7.4) Sword release. It has been 16 months 20 days since the abortive 1.7.5a1

[sword-devel] stripText -vs- ESV's quotation marks

2016-10-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Got a bug report on Xiphos, that export out of ESV is losing quotations marks. Export as HTML does not lose them; export as plain text does. The difference is use of mod->stripText(). ESV uses around quotations. My test verse is Matt.7.1... > Judging Others marker="" who="Jesus">

Re: [sword-devel] Announcing Sword++

2016-09-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/25/2016 05:25 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Changes ... need to be slow, reliable and consensual. And the > maintainers need to be slow, reliable and acting in consensus, too. > Plodders, more than revolutionaries. I want to see if I've got this straight. Jaak is being challenged for

Re: [sword-devel] Announcing Sword++

2016-09-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/25/2016 03:50 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > the fear that it will kill any upgrades in most Linux distros There hasn't been a release of the engine in something like 2 years, so ... eh, hardly matters, y'know? ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] FreDaw module

2016-06-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/20/2016 06:37 AM, Fr Cyrille wrote: > But now my question is how Xiphos can notice that images are in the > content? When preparing the content for the HTML widget, Xiphos looks for tags, anticipating the possibility of resizing to fit the widget pane. The first time that Xiphos notices ,

Re: [sword-devel] FreDaw module

2016-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/19/2016 03:13 PM, Cyrille Lafricain wrote: > > Yes i saw it for others modules but not for fredaw. I don't know why. > Did you see it in yours? > As I said, it becomes an available option once Xiphos has noticed that images are in the content. Until you display an entry that has images, the

Re: [sword-devel] FreDaw module

2016-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/19/2016 10:17 AM, Fr Cyrille wrote: > Maybe some option to choose? There is an option "Image Content" from the context menu's "Module Options" submenu. All image-containing modules gain this option, once the first image is detected. But it defaults "on" so you can't avoid seeing images

Re: [sword-devel] FreDaw module

2016-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/18/2016 03:11 PM, Fr Cyrille wrote: > I download the freDaw module. There are maps in the module, but I > don't know how to access it? Someone knows? > I tested with the words Palestine, empire, Perse... I can't see the maps! > Which frontend are you using? In Xiphos, I see them under these

Re: [sword-devel] we need a release

2016-06-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/10/2016 08:05 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > to build our own Sword containing this fix, do we need sources/patches from > you svn co https://www.crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk sword cd sword [ edit usrinst.sh, to turn off --disable-shared and add --without-xapian ] ./autogen.sh ./usrinst.sh make

[sword-devel] we need a release

2016-06-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
People are again taking note of the long-fixed mismatch bug, fixed 18 months ago, fix propagated into the sword-1-7-x branch 12 months ago. It's been a long time, for a trivial-to-fix bug that manifests very badly. Can we please at least get a 1.7.something out the door, if not an updated 1.8?

[sword-devel] TEI (OSIS?) tables

2016-06-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
http://www.crosswire.org/forums/mvnforum/viewthread_thread,1410 Xiphos itself has no problem with tables. It generates tables internally for its own purposes. So the question is whether the filters can generate proper xhtml table directives. ___

[sword-devel] use of config Abbreviation

2016-05-22 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
In ggzlcb.conf: [GGZLCB] Abbreviation=Bіblіya uşaklara deynі Description=Bіblіya uşaklara deynі Prettyplease, Abbreviation is a replacement for the module name, not a restatement of the full textual name in Description. See

Re: [sword-devel] Missing verse in AndBible

2016-05-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 05/21/2016 05:46 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > I see > Wis 16:1 quite clearly (actually, better than in Xiphos, where > I was not able to find out how to select non-canonical book). I have no idea what that means; with WEB ( engWEB2015) displayed, the book pulldown shows all those available. Any

Re: [sword-devel] Help with CzeCEP update (av11n)

2016-05-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 05/21/2016 03:49 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > Does Xiphos support av11n? I didn't think it does. > Certainly. It was the major effort for the beginning of v4. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] CzeBKR has unusual language code

2016-04-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 04/23/2016 05:14 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > b) it would be awesome if Xiphos et al. fixed their ordering of > languages, so that Čeština wouldn’t go after all > ASCII-starting languages This has been fixed in Xiphos. It will be seen in 4.0.5 when I can get it out. Life has been very

Re: [sword-devel] Help with CzeCEP update (av11n)

2016-03-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 03/10/2016 02:58 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 2016-03-10, 04:52 GMT, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> A module created this way would not be accepted for new import. > Sorry, which way? What’s wrong? Do you mean, because of using mod2imp? > I will gladly use any better sources I will be pointed to, or

Re: [sword-devel] Chinese ideographic script and OSIS transChange?

2016-02-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/20/2016 01:23 PM, DM Smith wrote: > Do we have a means to “grep” a whole repository? mkdir /tmp/dumpraw && cd /home/ftp/pub/sword/raw/mods.d && grep -a '^\[' * | fgrep -v ' ' | tr -d '\r]' | cut -f2 -d[ | while read m ; do echo $m ; mod2imp $m > /tmp/dumpraw/$m.imp ; done You do now. BTW,

Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?

2016-02-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/10/2016 08:27 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Are month heading keys valid with the key $$$mm.00 ? A daily.dev is a dictionary module with odd keys. You can encode $$$mm.00 if you wish, and if you display that daily.dev in an app's usual dictionary pane, you can surely navigate to mm.00. But I'm

Re: [sword-devel] IMP format for Daily Devotionals?

2016-02-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/10/2016 12:23 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Putting it in mm.01 implies that it only belongs to the first of the month. > In the 1842 original these headings were at the top of each month's table. It seems to me that this is a sort of semantic gap between original paper publication and how the

[sword-devel] FYI new TLD

2016-02-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
".bible" http://bibletld.org ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page

Re: [sword-devel] Deuterocanonical books - Czech localization

2016-02-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/09/2016 06:51 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Please send them to Karl Kleinpaste. No. He's referring to the Sword-internal Bible book name localizations. The apps have no control over that. Those come out of the engine from VerseKey references and so fo

Re: [sword-devel] Jesus red letter words

2016-02-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/09/2016 11:24 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Has there anything been changed regarding ‚Jesus red letter words‘? Just updated from svn and rebuilt. I see no change, it works as before. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] transChange within a rdg element

2016-02-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/06/2016 05:19 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Would it be too much to ask that colophon text be rendered in a smaller font > size than the main text? ...iff it's done using a relative font size indicator. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] transChange within a rdg element

2016-02-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/06/2016 11:18 AM, DM Smith wrote: > which render does Xiphos use, osishtmlhref or osisxhtml? Xiphos moved to osisxhtml in 2013. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] updating modules -> port 80?

2016-02-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/04/2016 07:26 AM, Marjan Savli wrote: > Would it be possible to add port 80 on (maybe some other?) server to > behave as ftp port? Asking for servers to be configured to provide an FTP server on port 80 will go nowhere -- it's just not done. But many repos are accessible via HTTP on 80 as

Re: [sword-devel] regenerating an editable Personal commentary

2016-02-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/03/2016 01:37 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Can someone offer the necessary steps OK, so a day goes by with no reaction. Let me ask another way: How was the existing Personal created? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org h

Re: [sword-devel] regenerating an editable Personal commentary

2016-02-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/04/2016 11:52 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Can you just pass an empty file to mod2imp, tell it the versification > you want, and create the appropriate conf file? I assume you meant imp2vs, since mod2imp is the wrong direction. No, I've tried that. "imp2vs /dev/null -o . -v KJVA" All it

Re: [sword-devel] regenerating an editable Personal commentary

2016-02-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/04/2016 12:33 PM, DM Smith wrote: > Take a look at sword/utilities/addcomment.cpp. Thanx. I had never noticed. It doesn't build. I have to ask for it individually ("make addcomment") in sword/utilities, and that in turn makes me add -I/usr/include/sword manually, and then it gets into

[sword-devel] regenerating an editable Personal commentary

2016-02-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I have a user for whom I'd like to generate a new Personal using KJVA v11n. Can someone offer the necessary steps to do that using existing Sword utilities? It doesn't seem to me that the normal xyz2mod kinds of utilities are the weapons required. ___

Re: [sword-devel] Goodrick-Kohlenberger numbers?

2016-02-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/02/2016 01:25 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Anyone know what are Goodrick-Kohlenberger numbers? An intended replacement for Strong's numbers. But it was done for NIV (at least initially) and Zondervan copyrighted the system, leading to others' lack of interest in using a new, restricted,

Re: [sword-devel] Latin diacritics

2016-02-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/02/2016 08:45 AM, David Haslam wrote: > we might find this Name as an exception, Phœbe Phebe grep -la ^DataPath.*texts * | xargs grep -a '^\[' | tr -d '\r]' | cut -f2 -d[ | while read name ; do diatheke -b $name -f Plain -k rom.16.1 ; done | egrep -A1 -i '(ph|f).*be[ ,] and then massage

[sword-devel] Xiphos development and mailing list changes

2016-01-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Just FYI. Xiphos is moving development off SourceForge to GitHub. This has been requested of me for a long time by several other developers, and the process is finally under way. I've asked Troy to create new mailing lists xiphos-devel and xiphos-users, to which all subscribers will be moved

Re: [sword-devel] Bad markup in VarApp 1.0/bug in Xiphos?

2016-01-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/23/2016 12:34 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote: > It consistently shows a sort of 'staircase' effect, as if a superscript > were being applied but never closed. (See attached screenshot for an > example.) > I'm wondering if this is bad markup or a bug, and if it's the latter, > where the bug is. The

Re: [sword-devel] Bad markup in VarApp 1.0/bug in Xiphos?

2016-01-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
For completeness' sake, I just repeated the fix in osishtmlhref.cpp in both trunk and sword-1-7-x, even though I'm pretty sure no one is using the old htmlhref filters any more. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Bad markup in VarApp 1.0/bug in Xiphos?

2016-01-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
This is what the same passage looks like with the engine trivially fixed. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page

Re: [sword-devel] Infinite loop bug in BosworthToller

2016-01-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/17/2016 08:10 PM, DM Smith wrote: > If you add StrongsPadding=false, I think it will work. Yup, you're right. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to

Re: [sword-devel] Infinite loop bug in BosworthToller

2016-01-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
FYI ZhEnglish also shows problems with mod2imp. $$$-PLATED -plated · to plate 鍍 (镀) dù · 鋈 wù $$$-R ONE phonetic · -r + one chem. 哢 lòng $$$-Z OLE phonetic · -z + ole chem. 唑 zuò $$$0.6 0.6 零點六 (零点六) líng diǎn liù $$$1 0.6 零點六 (零点六) líng diǎn liù $$$1 0.6 零點六 (零点六) líng diǎn liù $$$1 0.6

Re: [sword-devel] Infinite loop bug in BosworthToller

2016-01-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/14/2016 03:21 PM, Костя Маслюк wrote: > Until then our software (except Xiphos that have workaround) will freeze It does? What workaround do you mean? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos http server down

2016-01-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Yeah, tell it to Comcast, who have been ditching service in this area on and off for 3 days. I hope it'll be back again in a couple hours. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] better UTF-sensitive sort

2016-01-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/12/2016 11:32 AM, DM Smith wrote: > Is ICU4C out of the question? Thanx for the pointer. It took a bit more contemplation than it probably should have, but I used ucol_strcollUTF8() (in icu-i18n) and it seems fine. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

2016-01-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/13/2016 07:53 PM, DM Smith wrote: > it loads but doesn’t work in Xiphos. AbbottSmith and BosworthToller are the only 2 modules (I think) that I am unable to index. Try "mkfastmod AbbottSmith". It will do nothing but spin your CPU. In fact, I just found that I can't even use mod2imp on it.

[sword-devel] better UTF-sensitive sort

2016-01-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
To produce Xiphos' module trees (sidebar, mod.mgr, adv.search), I sort by language using qsort+strcmp. This was recently pointed out as being poor for UTF-8 strings, and I replaced strcmp with strcoll. This works fine in Linux. Unfortunately, the Win32 version of strcoll believes in UTF-16, even

Re: [sword-devel] Turkish to English glossary problem

2016-01-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/06/2016 09:26 AM, David Haslam wrote: > You mentioned MDB - that's certainly the MS Access file extension. On Linux systems, "mdbtools" packages (main plus -devel, -lib, and -gui) are available. The viewer tool is gmdb2 in mdbtools-gui. Also, https://sourceforge.net/projects/mdbtools/.

Re: [sword-devel] NASB status

2016-01-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/06/2016 10:22 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > I much rather would deal on the support line with complaints about NASB not > working well on whatever than it still not available. I could try to express how much in agreement I am with this sentence but I cannot succeed. Make it available,

[sword-devel] NASB status

2016-01-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
NASB has been a decade-plus in progress. Last I knew or remembered, Greg's markup had gotten quite solid and, I believe, finalized. There was something going on about necessary engine support percolating out to one or more of the frontends before NASB would be considered for release. Where do

Re: [sword-devel] NASB status

2016-01-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/06/2016 10:56 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > but no one has told me what those issues are It comes down to this: We need to look for the way to say Yes, and stop coughing up any and all possible, weak, ham-handed excuses to say No. A long time ago -- late '08 -- I flamed at length here about

[sword-devel] answering subscription requests?

2015-12-26 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Someone in IRC #sword is wondering why he hasn't successfully gotten onto this list yet. He claims to have sent appropriate messages to appropriate places. Is there a queue in need of address? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] 4 new French public domain translations

2015-12-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/24/2015 04:22 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Has he removed those lines? No, but in looking at other French modules after installing the new ones, I see that these all should have it: FreSegond FrePGR FreMartin FreCrampon FreBBB ___ sword-devel mailing

Re: [sword-devel] 4 new French public domain translations

2015-12-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/24/2015 04:32 PM, David Haslam wrote: > That still doesn't explain how for four modules released almost > simultaneously, > just one does not show available size in the Xiphos module manager. It means no more than that, in the creation of these new *.conf, someone neglected InstallSize in

Re: [sword-devel] 4 new French public domain translations

2015-12-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Small request: In the future, give a moment's thought to which new modules require Feature=NoParagraphs. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your

Re: [sword-devel] KJV 2.8 update

2015-12-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/20/2015 11:59 AM, David Haslam wrote: > I just installed it using Xiphos Module Manager, and it doesn't display any > text! It won't even let me navigate. WFM as is under Xiphos in both Linux and Win7. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] HarfBuzz

2015-12-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/13/2015 01:51 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > relies on something else (webkit) which in turn (via gtk?) relies on > pango which in turn relies on harfbuzz if it is there. pango and pangocairo are libs installed (in Fedora) as the pango package. pangocairo loads harfbuzz dynamically -- it is

Re: [sword-devel] Images in a dictionary

2015-11-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 11/25/2015 06:17 AM, domcox wrote: > > It isn't working, no figure is shown. Any thoughts? I have always done this as "/images/1.jpg", where the filename is anchored in a relative root (leading '/'). ___ sword-devel mailing list:

[sword-devel] Personal commentary vs. deutercanon

2015-11-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
A Xiphos user wants to edit Personal for references to deuterocanon books. It isn't working, evidently saving as reference to Rev.1.1. I suggested he edit "Version=KJVA" into personal.conf, but apparently no joy there, either. Any thoughts? ___

Re: [sword-devel] Personal commentary vs. deutercanon

2015-11-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 11/20/2015 12:42 PM, DM Smith wrote: > It is not Version=KJVA but Versification=KJVA. Yes, sorry, that is what I suggested. Specifying av11n did no good. Hence questions here. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos, blank pages

2015-10-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 10/19/2015 06:36 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > could anybody suggest why xiphos shows me just blank pages I just came back to this after watching your video when you first sent this last week. I have no explanation, but do you get the same behavior out of BT, for example? My only guess is some kind

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos remote source down?

2015-09-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/23/2015 05:23 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > a request to replace the old A RR with a CNAME RR ftp.xiphos.org's DNS has been updated, so the repo is visible again. And it is busy. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org h

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos remote source down?

2015-09-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
The remote VPN endpoint that has provided my home server's (as ftp.xiphos.org's) external visibility for roughly 2 decades completely failed last weekend. It was finally determined yesterday that that node will not come back. So I worked out the necessary dynamic DNS and other matters needed so

Re: [sword-devel] Online Bible Study Tool

2015-09-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/17/2015 08:26 AM, James Hammack wrote: > very interested in bringing the resources of SWORD to the online world http://www.crosswire.org/swordweb/ which in turn references http://www.crosswire.org/study/ Probably does most of what you're looking to do, and then there are all our

Re: [sword-devel] Namespace Proposal re eBible - collissions, duplication, clean-up etc

2015-09-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/03/2015 07:09 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > Please make sure you get a fresh copy from the repository. I always refresh immediately before such tests; such was the case 90 seconds before I wrote. > the morphology tags have been stripped from this module for now. Those > may come

Re: [sword-devel] Namespace Proposal re eBible - collissions, duplication, clean-up etc

2015-09-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/03/2015 09:54 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > It would necessitate changes to existing front-ends, but they would not be > drastic. Generally speaking, I am suspicious of things that require "changes to [all] existing front-ends," because then it smells very much like something that ought to be

Re: [sword-devel] Namespace Proposal re eBible - collissions, duplication, clean-up etc

2015-09-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/03/2015 04:21 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > The new grcTisheb module should at least display correctly, even > though it is missing some features. - grcTischeb.conf is not individually in eBible's pub/sword/mods.d, though it is present within pub/sword/mods.d.tar.gz. -

Re: [sword-devel] Namespace Proposal re eBible - collissions, duplication, clean-up etc

2015-09-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/03/2015 05:26 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Looking at the flurry of emails from the last few weeks I am thinking > if I was Michael, I would start hitting my head against the wall. I'm not Michael, and I already feel like I've been beating my head against eBible's wall. In an

Re: [sword-devel] Namespace Proposal re eBible - collissions, duplication, clean-up etc

2015-09-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
BTW, I'm thinking about adding a snippet of code to Xiphos' mod.mgr to check to-be-installed modules' DataPath against all installed modules, to ensure that no conflicts are manufactured. Seems to be reasonable self-defense against poor choices. ___

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/02/2015 10:51 AM, David Haslam wrote: > those whose real module names include a lowercase > language code prefix are listed below all the modules that have a > capitalized [ModName]. An unintentional side effect that I intend to try to fix, caused by the modules arriving in the list in

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

2015-09-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/02/2015 01:19 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > grcTisch (Tischendorf) > Version=2.9 > History_2.9=Automatically generated on 2015-09-01 from source files > dated 2014-01-11 Weakness: Still no variants, per source text (11 verses). Error: Morph content is present but there is no

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/01/2015 09:45 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > The uniqueness of an abbreviation is not required as long as you never > try to look up which module corresponds to that abbreviation. If all > you do is use the abbreviation as a short way to display which text is > selected, i.e. just

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/02/2015 10:24 AM, David Haslam wrote: > The sidebar (etc) now just displays "Abbrev: Description" You're right, my mistake. The display of "Abbrev (Real)" is restricted to the module manager, which is where I figured it mattered most, or at all. By the time the user has installed a module,

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository minor tweak

2015-09-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/02/2015 10:30 AM, David Haslam wrote: > On the other hand, I may not have previously installed all these 5 modules. Then they would show under "Uninstalled" instead of "Updates". ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-09-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/01/2015 09:29 AM, DM Smith wrote: > Having Abbreviation=KJV for a Thai module is clearly not the intent. To use > it within a repo with uniqueness by language is entirely a bad idea. I'm glad I didn't misunderstand this aspect. > Collisions are bad. There is always some nook or cranny in

[sword-devel] Semantic problem: real module names vs. Abbreviation=XYZ

2015-08-31 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
The particular example at hand is KJV vs. engKJV2006. I know that Michael is removing the latter from eBible repo, but this is a specific instance of a general problem. So I will use it as my example. Problem: KJV is a real module name. engKJV2006.conf contains Abbreviation=KJV. David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Lemmas, Strongs & Morph

2015-08-31 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/31/2015 10:58 AM, David Haslam wrote: > In Xiphos, this is not quite true. I don't know what's going on with KJV, but the problem is not in Xiphos. Please see module TischMorph from the Xiphos repo. The source text contains all of Strong's numbers, morphology, and lemmatization. All are

[sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.4

2015-08-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Xiphos 4.0.4 - Implemented dynamic allocation enhancement to replace survivability fix. - Updated language abbreviations to eliminate unknowns. - Fixed module installation messages so they are not lost. - Fixed abbrev support, to show abbrevs in all non-essential contexts. - Fixed maximization

Re: [sword-devel] Announcing KJV 2.7

2015-08-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/30/2015 04:45 AM, David Haslam wrote: Could there have been a bug in Xiphos 4.0.3 ? Apparently not, as I got it correctly on my 1st attempt. Anyway, all Xiphos does when installing an update is to remove the existing module and re-install. Re-installing over an existing module has had

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/28/2015 10:30 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Should I try to make the paragraph-beginning verse number placement less odd? When making modules, my perspective has always been that the preceding verse specifies the paragraph /ending/, so that the vertical whitespace is generated

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/28/2015 10:18 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: At least as importantly, how would Joe Average distinguish them? Good question. That kind of depends on how much information is presented to Joe Average. My point in asking is that their mere presence duplicates these modules, creating

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/28/2015 10:19 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: ou need to look at the fuller title. WEBBE includes the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha. WEBUK doesn't. Then Joe Average will fail to understand the difference. The naming difference being isolated to BE (British Edition) vs. UK (um, that's still

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/28/2015 04:40 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: The engKJV1769, engKJV2006, and spaRV1909 look a lot better, now How are your KJV modules distinguished from those in Crosswire main repo? At least as importantly, how would Joe Average distinguish them?

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
As well, why do you have both WEBUK and WEBBE, both of whose descriptions say World English Bible British Edition, and again, how would Joe Average make an intelligent choice between them? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Are you aware of the odd placement of paragraph-beginning verse#s in your modules? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org beta repository updated

2015-08-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I just keep running into oddities as I look these over the first time, having only dealt previously with the repo's ability to serve them properly. Why does your KJV conf contain GlobalOptionFilter=OSISLemma when there appears to be no lemma content?

Re: [sword-devel] Modules HebDelitzsch and HebNTFD ?

2015-08-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/27/2015 08:36 AM, David Haslam wrote: HebNTFD is not in CrossWire Main but in the Xiphos repo. HebNTFD was offered to me in 2011 by Michael Murphy oldman1...@gmail.com who requested that I get it into Crosswire. I explained that I don't have privs for that, being outside my responsibility,

Re: [sword-devel] Odd behavior in Xiphos module manager

2015-08-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/27/2015 09:31 PM, Fred Smith wrote: I'd appreciate it if someone would give me an idea if it is (1) repeatable, (2) a Xiphos bug I need to report, (3) a GTK bug, (4) something else. I've seen it. As far as I can tell, it's a GTK3 artifact. It's not very repeatable, but it's not

Re: [sword-devel] 1.7.5a1

2015-08-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/21/2015 08:18 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: I don't control any of those things. I only curate commits from the trunk branch into the 1.7 branch and prepare releases from there. FYI one insistent reason for a release now is to bring in the sup/sup mismatch fix, about which I receive (invalid)

Re: [sword-devel] Yet another iteration of the eBible.org repository is in progress.

2015-08-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
InstallSize support has evaporated. $ pwd /home/karl/.sword/InstallMgr $ grep eBible InstallMgr.conf HTTPSource=eBible|ebible.org|/sword|||20150816130503 $ cd 20150816130503/mods.d/ $ grep 'InstallSize=0$' * | wc -l 678 You don't test your own repo. You should be doing your own testing -- I'm

[sword-devel] bug: installmgr -u doesn't remove config files

2015-08-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I'm removing a pile of modules, 1 at a time: $ pwd /home/karl/.sword/mods.d $ list yss* -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 3086 Aug 15 23:50 yss_yamano2004.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 3091 Aug 15 23:50 yss_yawu1996.conf $ installmgr -u yss_yawu1996 Removed module: [yss_yawu1996] $ installmgr -u

Re: [sword-devel] Yet another iteration of the eBible.org repository is done.

2015-08-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
/*sIGh* $ /grep DataPath aau2006.conf DataPath=./modules/texts/ztext/aau2006/ ftp cd /pub/sword/modules/texts/ztext/aau2006 250 CWD command successful ftp dir -a 227 Entering Passive Mode (74,208,71,128,216,118). 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list drwxrwxr-x 2 ebible psacln

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