Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/17/2015 04:44 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: I still don’t know what's the advantage of lying about the API version. I suppose it's a small example of a much larger problem. If GTK3 is updated from 3.14.15 to 3.14.16, we shouldn't induce a rebuild of all GTK3 applications. Current

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh done

2015-08-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/17/2015 07:49 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: in the interest of brevity, I'll take them out If you change module names entirely, you will need to add Obsoletes: oldNameHere to each affected .conf. Otherwise those of us who have been testing your repo will have our module populations

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/17/2015 12:42 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: I didn’t build it, it was downloaded from the official EPEL repo. Sorry, my mistake, I thought you were experimenting with the build process for it as well. Why in the world, we define that __soversion macro? I have never in my life with SPEC files

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I pulled down the official (i.e. Greg's) BibleSync packages from Fedora repos to look inside them. His packages contain .so.1.1, not .so.1.1.2. Perhaps Greg did the soversion thing? But in the name of consistency, then, a Xiphos built against that BibleSync package should link fine using just

Re: [sword-devel] subfolders in module directory

2015-08-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/17/2015 11:55 AM, Konstantin Maslyuk wrote: Are sub folders permitted at all? Subfolders are common in modules having image content, such as maps or like OpenHymnal in which sheet music is in image files. A subdirectory named images is routinely used, in which all *.{gif,jpg,png} are

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh done

2015-08-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/16/2015 03:18 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: the module and repository creation instructions say that the zip files should have directory entries. Where do you see this? http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:Modules makes no mention of it.

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/16/2015 01:43 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: What's wrong with me? Shouldn't distro-sync be enough? It seems to me that some package is missing proper Requires. Um... xiphos: error while loading shared libraries: libbiblesync.so.1.1.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/16/2015 05:55 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: Shouldn’t that library be /usr/lib64/libbiblesync.so.1.1.2 ? Absolutely. Did you update biblesync.spec appropriately when it was built, and did you build it from the right .tar.gz in the first place? ___

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/16/2015 07:52 PM, Brian Schroeder wrote: Is their something wrong with the eBible site at the moment? If you set it upin mod.mgr for FTP usage, the problem is that anon FTP has been disabled at this time. I don't know why. $ ftp ftp.ebible.org Connected to ftp.ebible.org (74.208.71.128).

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh done

2015-08-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/15/2015 10:32 PM, DM Smith wrote: As a matter of style, Description should be the “title” of the work, not an actual description. That is, it should be short. As a reference, modules' Description in Crosswire main repo: 250 modules length 32 (roughly half of those are Freedict Abcdef to

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh done

2015-08-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/14/2015 12:10 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: The eBible.org repository refresh is done, again, with no case squashing anywhere, and consistent capitalization. I hope. (Tell me if I missed something, of course.) For the 3rd time, there are case errors causing installation failure

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh done

2015-08-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I created 2 files, configs and directories. configs is the result of getting the trailing path component of DataPath from *.conf. directories is the result of ftp dir to get those same components. I've diff'd them. $ diff -U0 configs directories --- configs2015-08-14 17:07:16.399555970

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh ongoing again

2015-08-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
There are now many modules with directory upper/lowercase errors causing installation failures. Example: $ grep DataPath .sword/InstallMgr/20150811152606/mods.d/thaKJV2003.conf DataPath=./modules/texts/ztext/tha*kjv*2003/ ftp cd modules/texts/ztext/ 250 CWD command successful ftp dir tha* 227

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh ongoing again

2015-08-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/13/2015 02:15 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Is there anything else that needs to be fixed? I've just been periodically trying to load up the entire content and reporting what I find doesn't work. As for fixing this sort of thing, generally speaking I believe we have always

Re: [sword-devel] New repository - Implications for frontends

2015-08-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/12/2015 06:36 AM, David Haslam wrote: front-end developers might wish to consider providing a search/filter feature to display subsets of the language list. I can hardly imagine what sort of subset filter would be useful. Show me just the Zapotecs? Just the Easterns? All flavors of

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh complete

2015-08-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/10/2015 11:01 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: You can pick up current SVN of the file at Apparently I'm an idiot, since I can't edit a file sensibly. Glitch fixed and now accessible at https://sourceforge.net/p/gnomesword/code/4916/tree/trunk/ui/languages

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh ongoing again

2015-08-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/10/2015 08:15 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: I think use of HTTP instead of anonymous FTP is a good idea for the future, for all front ends, as the gradual shift from IPv4 to IPv6 marches onward. This comment, and what followed it, is /non sequitur/. The problem is not that Sword

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh complete

2015-08-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I want to observe that, with the new eBible repo, Sword apps' language support has risen (in my .sword/mods.d) from 179 to 732, and that's without the last almost 3 dozen more that I just reported as having problems, that will presumably add further to the set when fixed. This is to say that the

Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org repository refresh complete

2015-08-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/09/2015 01:23 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: The new Sword repository at ftp://eBible.org/pub/sword and http://eBible.org/sword is now ready for testing. Please let me know if there are any more opportunities for improvement in the repository. These have *.conf but no content in

Re: [sword-devel] heads up - languages/repo frontend problem

2015-08-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/07/2015 11:33 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: What is the easiest way to determine the InstallSize from the output of osis2mod for compressed modules? installsize=`du -sb .sword/modules/texts/ztext/pick-a-directory | cut -f1` As to permissions, all files are mode 0600 as seen from

Re: [sword-devel] heads up - languages/repo frontend problem

2015-08-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/07/2015 09:39 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Anonymous login works for me with user name anonymous. Unfortunately, ftp as a user name does not work. But anonymous works for me every time. What are you using for user name and password? I have just discovered that anonymous ftp works

Re: [sword-devel] heads up - languages/repo frontend problem

2015-08-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/07/2015 10:01 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: ftp 74.208.71.12 works. Access works, but it seems that file permissions prevent any module from being obtained. Deliberate? I am also alternately alarmed or impressed that you claim to have NIV 2011. Where/how did you get permission

[sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.3

2015-08-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
For those unaware: Peter von Kaehne bumped sideways into a nasty, crash-inducing Xiphos limitation related to the maximum count of language groups that can be handled at one time. This was caused by a new repository holding large numbers of new Bible modules, overrunning this limitation. Due to

Re: [sword-devel] heads up - languages/repo frontend problem

2015-08-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/04/2015 06:07 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Interestingly this triggers a bug in Xiphos, which had made the at one time probably reasonable assumption that no repo will have more than 200 languages. I've committed a change to make that 2000 for now, but I'll re-work the code so that it's

Re: [sword-devel] Windows 10 ?

2015-07-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/30/2015 02:47 PM, David Haslam wrote: Have the front-end developers tested their Windows software on Windows 10 ? Considering that Win10 was released just 2 days ago, the likelihood of any of us even having seen it is nil. ___ sword-devel mailing

Re: [sword-devel] ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/raw/mods.d.tar.gz

2015-07-26 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/26/2015 05:49 PM, Konstantin Maslyuk wrote: What is wrong with file ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/raw/mods.d.tar.gz ? Seems fine to me. Xiphos refreshes it fine. It contains 423 perfectly ordinary configuration files. $ hostname www.crosswire.org $ pwd /space/home/ftp/pub/sword/raw

Re: [sword-devel] Romanian

2015-07-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/17/2015 07:35 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: updated the Romanian Cornielescu Bible .conf typo, s/OSISScripRef/OSISScripref/ This error prevents me from being able to turn off xrefs. http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#Elements_required_for_proper_rendering Also OSISFootnotes

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n mark 2

2015-07-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/15/2015 06:25 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: I don't actually care if we line all Bibles up to the same content when they have different versification, although that would be nice. I care that they can be displayed and searched. *^- *This.* -^ *Aligning variant v11ns is not

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n mark 2

2015-07-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/15/2015 06:35 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: 1) Unlike the other av11n implementation it does not yet show non KJV verse range content. I'm confused. If genbook Bibles are essentially self-contained in terms of v11n, how can a genbook Bible not display all its own content?

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n mark 2

2015-07-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I think that doesn't help my confusion. If someone creates a genbook Bible containing a previously-unknown book called Doofus, why should I not be able to navigate to Doofus 1:1, since the v11n is self-contained? ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n mark 2

2015-07-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/15/2015 08:29 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Wrt the not display of book Doofus 1.1 or even the existing Malachi 3.22 - if I remember correctly the GB av11n implementation was added to Xiphos at the same time when Xiphos added code to _not_crash_ on av11n modules. Xiphos never had code

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n mark 2

2015-07-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 07/13/2015 11:04 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: What do you think? Is it completely invisible to the application (I know you said Xiphos was OK, but were there any rough edges?), and does JSword implement it yet? ___ sword-devel mailing list:

[sword-devel] sword ignores hi type=emphasize in OSIS texts

2015-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I have a Xiphos bug report which complains of this problem. I've closed the bug as it's not something to be fixed in Xiphos; as always, Xiphos blindly pastes into the pane whatever the engine offers . But apparently OSIS is supposed to support this.

Re: [sword-devel] sword ignores hi type=emphasize in OSIS texts

2015-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Er, emphasis not emphasize, or so I'm told. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page

[sword-devel] DisplayLevel handling

2015-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Xiphos has never handled DisplayLevel in any way. I've looked at the wiki write-a-conf page and I'm kind of at a loss to grasp what would happen for DL 2. DL=1, just display the entry, fine. DL=2, display all siblings at the same key level, fine. DL=3? Do I start crawling up and down the key

Re: [sword-devel] sword ignores hi type=emphasize in OSIS texts

2015-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/19/2015 07:53 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: I have not checked this one yet. The word emphasis occurs only once in src/modules/filters/*, as a comment in thmlosis.cpp. If I get a chance I will see if I can fix this on the weekend. Is there a specific module which relies upon this It's

[sword-devel] autotools build having trouble in -r3373

2015-04-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Someone came into #sword with build problems. I now have the same thing happening; I hadn't done svn up since 3358, but a fresh tree has all manner of trouble with autotools build, during ./autogen.sh. Makefile.am: installing './depcomp' lib/Makefile.am:17: warning: source file

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.2

2015-04-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 04/23/2015 08:53 AM, Fred Smith wrote: I note that there is also a .spec file available and thought I'd try to build a binary RPM for it too. But I'm pretty ignorant of how to do that, so I've googled for how to build an RPM binary from source and found a number of hits. Make a directory

[sword-devel] beta module repo -- a rant

2015-04-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Today, someone came into #xiphos to say that Daily (Jonathan Bagster's Daily Light on the Daily Path) was both displaying oddly and causing hangs in latest Xiphos. We poked around a while, coming to no sure conclusion because what I saw was clearly not what he saw. Then I realized he had an old

[sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.2

2015-04-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
A serious memory management error was discovered today in Xiphos' editor. It's bad enough that I've fixed the error and released 4.0.2. https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomesword/files/Xiphos/4.0.2/ ___ sword-devel mailing list:

[sword-devel] identifying apps in ftp xferlog

2015-04-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Some time ago, I changed Xiphos' use of the Installmgr ctor to include xip...@xiphos.org as the default anonymous ftp password. If you're not aware, for anon ftp, this password is not an access password; it's just a token that allows the server to track some idea of who or what has accessed its

[sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.1 released

2015-03-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
4.0.1 has just gone out the door. This has an updated editor, module abbrev support, glosses/ruby + morpheme segmentation support, automatic module obsolescence support, more informative about dialog for modules, a pile of bug fixes, a whole lot of GTK3 compatibility hackery, WebKit2

[sword-devel] Reina-Valera versions

2015-03-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Yesterday, someone came into #sword looking for a 1960 Reina-Valera. I poked around and found we don't have that, though we do have several other versions. In CrossWire main, there is SpaRV1909, SpaRV (also claimed to be 1909), and SpaRVG (2010). In CrossWire Attic, there is SpaRVG2004, which

[sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this assertion? Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in

Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Peter Von Kaehne wrote: https://www.openhub.net/orgs/crosswire This gives a decent overview of ongoing activity. Phooey. Its decent overview thinks Xiphos came into existence in 2009 and is written in Scheme, and I can't find a way to look at the other 5 of its 6 reviews. I am unconvinced I

Re: [sword-devel] single chapter reference bug

2015-02-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/12/2015 08:41 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: lack of a chapter number means that the verse is currently misinterpreted I've always mechanically converted all refs like that (including Obadiah, Philemon, 2John, 3John) to manufacture the leading 1: before any other processing. It's a

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos FTBFS with GCC 5.0

2015-02-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/11/2015 04:06 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: I think you are right. In case you want to file a bug I was beginning to file a bug, but then looked more closely at the build log. In file included from /usr/include/c++/5.0.0/map:60:0, from ../src/main/modulecache.hh:45,

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos FTBFS with GCC 5.0

2015-02-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/10/2015 01:25 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: xiphos-4.0.0-3.fc22.src.rpm this package failed to build because the limit of the instantiation depth has been reached. Considering that I have no environment in which to test this, it's not very informative. Is there a build log?

Re: [sword-devel] Module problems

2015-02-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/10/2015 05:08 PM, DM Smith wrote: *OSMHB*:1 Chronicles 0:0 FYI OSMHB has been obsoleted by OSHB. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your

Re: [sword-devel] Belarussian updated

2015-02-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/08/2015 08:40 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Any others you want me to fix, please state Be careful what you ask for. Afr1953 Breton CopNT CopSahHorner CopSahidicMSS NovaSahidica Dan Dan1871 GerAlbrecht Est AB ABP ABU ACV AKJV ASV Anderson BBE CPDV DRC Darby Etheridge Godbey Jubeilee2000

Re: [sword-devel] Belarussian updated

2015-02-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/08/2015 01:54 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: can you explain in simple words what the presence of the parametre in the conf will do? Feature=NoParagraphs is advice to the frontend regarding whether the module ought to be presented by default as verse-per-line or expecting the content to have

Re: [sword-devel] Romanian text released, also Catena Aurea

2015-02-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/07/2015 03:52 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: revised text with footnotes, titles, xrefs and red letter text. A case error keeps xrefs from working, i.e. xrefs do not appear as an option in Xiphos. GlobalOptionFilter=OSISScripRef Should be Scripref, with lowercase r. See

Re: [sword-devel] Morphological segments

2015-01-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/07/2015 07:29 AM, David Haslam wrote: I just added this issue for diatheke, Er, well, I was bored last evening and committed a change to add -o M for morpheme segmentation. And your bug report says enum isn't supported, but it already was, before I got to it last evening.

Re: [sword-devel] Morphological segments

2015-01-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/05/2015 05:56 AM, David Haslam wrote: none of our front-ends provide support for displaying morphological segments as featured in the Hebrew WLC module. Xiphos 4.0.0e now does. But like OSISEnum, OSISMorphSegmentation seems not to do anything visually. I can't even compare against what

[sword-devel] mis-handling of OSIS hi type=super

2015-01-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
There's a serious glitch in handling of hi type=super, evidently a typo, or perhaps a paste-o, where sup opens but it is erroneously mis-closed with /span. Module ABP uses super heavily to indicate original Greek word ordering, superscripting word index numbers. The repeating sequence of

Re: [sword-devel] mis-handling of OSIS hi type=super

2015-01-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 01/04/2015 08:37 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: erroneously mis-closed with /span. I committed a fix already. A type was mis-compared against sup instead of super when deciding how to generate the closing tag. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Front-ends module management and the Obsoletes property?

2014-12-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/28/2014 09:21 AM, David Haslam wrote: Would it not be rather useful for the module management component of SWORD front-ends to do something proactively when a module is installed that obsoletes an already installed module? This is part of today's hacking on Xiphos. There is 4.0.0b in

[sword-devel] Xiphos 4.0.0

2014-12-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Merry Christmas! Xiphos 4.0.0 https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomesword/files/Xiphos/4.0.0/ In this release: * Alternate versification (av11n) Deuterocanonical and other (non-KJV) bible/chapter/verse schemas. * Support for module configuration directives: - Feature=NoParagraphs (default

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS xlit and OSIS Enum ?

2014-12-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/18/2014 04:03 AM, David Haslam wrote: Do any front-end apps have UI module options and proper rendering support As of an hour ago, Xiphos supports the options for them. OSISXlit has ... interesting effects. But as far as I can tell, OSISEnum doesn't do anything. At least, not in XHTML

[sword-devel] Sword apps -vs- Windows NTFS UTF16

2014-12-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
This is mostly a question of curiosity. When our first Xiphos release happened after port to Win32, the initial 3.0.0 lasted about 2 days before someone in Europe tried our Win32 installer and reported Xiphos crashing. The problem was that his Windows Vista login name had an accented character

[sword-devel] CipherKey preservation on update

2014-12-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
A suggestion for all apps: When updating a locked module, keep/re-use the old CipherKey. This was a suggestion from Greg during rapid updates in his NASB testing cycle. Having to re-paste or re-type the key is a pain and should be unnecessary. If the user has had the module a long time, he may

Re: [sword-devel] regex search for .

2014-12-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/16/2014 10:47 AM, David Haslam wrote: What happens when you search the personal commentary for the expression ^.+$ ? All verses. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] regex search for .

2014-12-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I don't know why I didn't think to try this earlier, but I got the needed effect back using regex search for ..+, i.e. at least 2 characters. I would still like to know why . no longer works, why search answers with every verse. It appears that Sword thinks there's at least 1 character in every

[sword-devel] regex search for .

2014-12-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
As a favor to users of Personal commentary, for eons Xiphos has provided a dump personal commentary capability, which has been implemented under the hood as a regex search for . in order to find exactly those verses in which something, anything, has been written down. The idea is that the user of

Re: [sword-devel] regex search for .

2014-12-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
BTW, examples/cmdline/search demonstrates the problem. Change search type to 0, re-compile, and ./search Personal . dumps all verses. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] BCV arithmetic problems

2014-12-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/11/2014 03:25 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: AddEst does not appear in the navbar book selector at all. I discovered this part was a cockpit error in Xiphos itself. Xiphos was declining a book's inclusion due to lack of content at 1:1. I've removed that test; all books show, regardless

Re: [sword-devel] BCV arithmetic problems

2014-12-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/12/2014 10:56 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Could you try to run the sword/tests/versekeytest and have a look at the end of the output. There should be a test which tried to span the OT/NT which should output something like: Matthew.1.1-- = Malachi 4:6 ++ = Matthew 1:1 OK, that's

[sword-devel] BCV arithmetic problems

2014-12-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Xiphos' navbar usage provides for mouse-scrolling the BCV indicators, or hitting up/down arrows beside them. The reaction to this is very simple-minded BCV arithmetic, simply adding or subtracting 1 based on the direction chosen, and then displaying the chapter per the resulting reference. I'm

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos av11n support

2014-12-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/08/2014 11:06 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: Exactly, which is the reason why I haven’t put there much instructions about how to use it. OK, thanx, I hadn't understood the limited nature of COPR. I already committed your wscript patch. ___ sword-devel

[sword-devel] Xiphos av11n support

2014-12-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomesword/upload/Xiphos/Testing/ If you wish to try Xiphos with av11n support, please see the URL and give it a shot. There are likely problems remaining and you may see a crash, in which case I would dearly love a report of how it was caused; there is stuff

[sword-devel] VerseKey semantics

2014-12-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I asked Troy about this in IRC a bit yesterday, but I ran into problems today and I'm in need of clues. In the av11n world, I've had to convert all VerseKey initialization to be v11n-sensitive. Mostly, I'd prefer just to use a module's own key directly: VerseKey *k = (VerseKey *)(SWKey

Re: [sword-devel] How should front-ends handle Feature=NoParagraphs ?

2014-12-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/04/2014 10:41 AM, David Haslam wrote: Question: Do any front-ends actually do this yet? By sometime this evening or tomorrow, Xiphos will, if I can find some reasonable code (cf. Greg's note about how to cycle all Feature lines), but my use will be for NoParagraphs to indicate default state

Re: [sword-devel] How should front-ends handle Feature=NoParagraphs ?

2014-12-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/04/2014 11:39 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: module.getConfig().has(Feature, NoParagraphs) Thanx. Xiphos SVN now supports Feature=NoParagraphs, as an initial/default value for verse-per-line. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Sun Solaris 9 sword compile failed at link stage

2014-12-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 12/04/2014 06:17 PM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: Sparc, Solaris 9. All a bit ancient. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris/overview/releases-jsp-140987.html The last update was Solaris 9 9/05 Extended Support for Solaris 9 ends in October, 2014. She's dead, Jim. Having

[sword-devel] size of xapian indices

2014-11-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I hadn't thought too much about the new Xapian search usage until I had reason this morning to look at disc usage under ~/.sword. Xapian indices are monstrous in size. A touchstone for this is that my personal NETnote module has rawcom ot+nt files whose size total about 23M. But the Xapian

Re: [sword-devel] size of xapian indices

2014-11-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 11/27/2014 12:25 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I don't think we're at a place where we want to promote Xapian as the default ... support is very preliminary and we haven't done any speed or size testing OK, well, I just bumped into it sideways because of svn up the other evening. If you

Re: [sword-devel] VPN Question

2014-11-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 11/27/2014 01:02 PM, Jon Behrens wrote: modules will not download when using a VPN. I habitually run OpenVPN and get an FTP connection failure. I cannot even load the module list from the repository. I suspect you have some sort of local problem. Can you run a command line ftp client

[sword-devel] buffer compression errors seen during mkfastmod

2014-11-26 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Due to updating my Sword world to svn head and finding that Xapian is taking CLucene's place, I needed to regenerate all my indexes. So I sicced a little mkfastmod pipeline on the problem. In the course of this, I encountered a pile of modules that suffer from a decompression error induced when

Re: [sword-devel] Module submission

2014-10-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 10/28/2014 07:15 AM, David Haslam wrote: Minor quirk. I had to relaunch Xiphos in order to find it. I couldn't say why. I didn't. Did you refresh the repo? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Module submission

2014-10-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 10/28/2014 01:38 PM, David Haslam wrote: Obviously I had already refreshed the beta repo in order to get to that stage. Well, OK,...you didn't say at what stage you were, when you couldn't find it. I thought you meant you couldn't find it in the set of modules offered in the repo. And there

[sword-devel] Per-module CSS support

2014-10-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
If any module authors would be interested in experimenting with being able to provide CSS support in your modules, I would like to offer you a test version of Xiphos which includes an initial cut of the idea. This evening, Xiphos gained an understanding of configuration directive

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup for gen books and devotionals

2014-09-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I find it odd that this discussion died out without any further consideration from other app or engine developers as to why the apps' delivery varies. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup for gen books and devotionals

2014-09-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 09/06/2014 10:35 AM, Laurie Fooks wrote: If we don't have a high level of commonality then I am concerned that we are losing the purpose of having a common engine ^/_This_./^ In all honesty, I have no idea what Xiphos (as the object of my personal concern) could do differently. We use the

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup for gen books and devotionals

2014-08-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/28/2014 11:10 AM, Laurie Fooks wrote: Is it possible that part of the prob may be that most genbooks have historically used ThML and some front ends are geared towards that markup? $ cd ~/.sword/mods.d $ grep -l ^DataPath.*genbook * | xargs grep ^SourceType | tr -d '\r' | cut -f2 -d= | tr

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup for gen books and devotionals

2014-08-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/26/2014 07:44 PM, Laurie Fooks wrote: 1. Internal linking - the pattern, MODULE:DIV1.DIV2.DIV3 in the Crosswire wiki does not work in any front end - MODULE:DIV1/DIV2/DIV3 works in Xiphos and BPBible and MODULE://DIV1/DIV2/DIV3 is needed for BibleTime and BibleTime-Mini. Is there a

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup for gen books and devotionals

2014-08-27 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/27/2014 06:04 PM, Laurie Fooks wrote: Xiphos is displaying most of the OSIS markup - with exceptions seen in my test module: - line indents using l level=2 - some hi formats - tables I have heard now and again that tables don't survive OSIS-anything filtering very well. I know that

Re: [sword-devel] Problems with th xz related code

2014-08-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I get the same build failure in Fedora 19, and your test program fails on lack of sysdata.h. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at

Re: [sword-devel] Problems with th xz related code

2014-08-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 08/24/2014 11:49 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: The sword/examples/classes folder assumes you have some version of sword installed. Come on, give me a break, of course I have Sword installed. If compilation doesn't provide this right, then examples/classes/Makefile is at fault. Regardless,

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos crashes

2014-06-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/10/2014 04:19 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: I am trying to figure out the Fedora builds in http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/mcepl/xiphos-3.2.1/ (I do have builds for RHEL-7 and Fedora = 20, others I have to figure out yet). When I will be done, I will attach patches to the Red Hat

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos crashes

2014-06-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/11/2014 09:59 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: That is not The Fedora Way™ … I have been always proud, that in Fedora it is useless to have PPAs, because we have one shared PPA on which everybody can work — the Fedora itself. Couldn’t we just make single-spec package (with some %ifs if

Re: [sword-devel] BibleSync library -- any takers to integrate into your app?

2014-06-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/02/2014 01:28 AM, Teus Benschop wrote: 1. If we have a team of Bible translators, all working in the same room and on the same network, all using Xiphos 3.2.0++, and working on individual portions of Scripture, will their Xiphos apps now all start to display the same passage? A team of

Re: [sword-devel] BibleSync library -- any takers to integrate into your app?

2014-06-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 06/02/2014 12:57 PM, Teus Benschop wrote: 1. There may be team where all members would display the same passage. In our team each translator works individually on his or her own passage. Does BibleSync also support a mechanism where the apps that scroll in parallel can be specified? The

[sword-devel] BibleSync library -- any takers to integrate into your app?

2014-06-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
When I released Xiphos 3.2.0, I mentioned that it had a new feature, BibleSync, to provide for multicast co-navigation of Bible programs. I've now separated BibleSync into a distinct library outside Xiphos, able to be built and linked separately. I would be interested to hear from any of the

[sword-devel] Xiphos 3.2.0

2014-05-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Xiphos 3.2.0 was let loose earlier today. Source tarball and Win32 installer are available at https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomesword/files/Xiphos/3.2.0/. Fedora builds will be forthcoming. Ubuntu tarballs (because we still lack a packager) are also available. See /topic on our IRC

Re: [sword-devel] KJV ae character merge

2014-04-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 04/21/2014 06:24 AM, Jim Michaels wrote: if this was 1611 vs 1769? http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/KJV_1611 It has been observed a number of times that the 1611 is really not a reasonable source from which to work. The 1769 is the usual and ordinary KJV with which most people are familiar.

[sword-devel] imp2vs won't generate a non-compressed module

2014-04-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
imp2vs' usage summary says... -z l|z|b|x use compression (default: none): However, when I invoke... imp2vs test.imp -o . ...I am rewarded with... $ ls ?t* nt.bzsnt.bzvnt.bzzot.bzsot.bzvot.bzz -r3192. ___

Re: [sword-devel] Preverse Headings titles/divs

2014-04-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 04/15/2014 09:59 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: In this new world, what happens with the 30% of non-OSIS Bible modules? FYI, Xiphos already has been updated so that the old world wrapping of pre-verse elements using br/b%s/bbr/br/ is conditional on non-OSIS modules. OSIS modules have the new

Re: [sword-devel] Preverse Headings titles/divs

2014-04-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
In this new world, what happens with the 30% of non-OSIS Bible modules? $ pwd /home/karl/.sword/mods.d $ grep -l ^DataPath.*text * | wc -l 402 $ grep -l ^DataPath.*text * | xargs grep SourceType= | tr -d '\r' | cut -f2 -d= | sort | uniq -c 34 GBF 282 OSIS 2 Plain 1 Plaintext

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP xref encoding error

2014-04-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
mod2imp CzeCSP | while read spec ; do echo $spec spec=${spec%%:*} spec=${spec##\$\$\$} read content echo $content | sed -e 's/v\.[^0-9]*\([0-9]\)/'$spec':\1/g' done csp.imp.new imp2vs csp.imp.new -z -o . -b 4 -v German -l cs mkdir ~/.sword/modules/texts/ztext/czecsp/.HOLD mv

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP xref encoding error

2014-04-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 04/10/2014 10:58 AM, DM Smith wrote: IIRC, the parser had special code to recognize v as a prefix for a verse number, but it may have been for 'v11' or 'v 11'. If it matters, most of those v. xrefs used a Unicode space, v.[weird space here]11. Perhaps the parser is unhappy with that?

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