Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Sun Feb 18, 2024 at 8:51 PM CET, Matěj Cepl wrote: > It seems there was something on Sourceforge > (https://sourceforge.net/p/sword/cvs/), but it is most likely > gone. Just for the record, the Sourceforge repo is more recent than SVN (https://git.cepl.eu/cgit/sword/sword-sf-cvs/). Best,

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Arnaud Vié
That's a debate that goes far beyond the scope of the current discussion, but to be honest I don't understand why USX even exists ^^' USFM favours easy editing of the files with its simple text tags. It makes perfect sense for editing bibles, in particular in translation software. OSIS favours

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Robert Hunt
Just to add a little to Michael Johnson's comments below, OSIS can include significantly more metadata than USX specifies (which is little more than the book code -- not even whether it's an original text (Heb/Greek) or what language translation it is). OSIS can specify many other things like

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Arnaud Vié
Thanks Michael for all this information ! I was not aware of this Copenhagen Alliance's work - I just had a quick look at the repository you linked, and it seems to cover a significant part of the requirements I wanted to cover with my proposal, but not all. I like the format, and the fact that it

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Michael Johnson
Thank you, Michael, for the pointer to Jonathan Robie's paper on Scriptural markup in the Bible translation community. I think it diplomatically states why USX won out over OSIS as the primary and best-supported XML standard for representing Scripture. I really don't expect USFM or USX to go

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Michael Johnson
Robert's point about also standardizing Scripture metadata with the ScriptureBurrito standard is a good one. USX's limitations relative to OSIS are both an advantage and a disadvantage. Because USX is more focused on primarily Scriptures, it has the advantage that the markup is less ambiguous

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Arnaud and others, Peter has done a good job summarizing. Yes, last year we had a discussion on the CrossWire and git topic and you can see the discussion in the mail archives here. https://crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2023-March/subject.html Some progress has been made.

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Arnaud Vié
Hi Peter and Troy, and thanks for the welcome ! Thanks Peter for the historical context, it does explain where things come from. I do have a lot of things to answer though :-) The SVN site for libsword is the current, not old. It is just that very > little changes over long stretches. Indeed,

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread David Haslam
Another active project based on a different fork of JSword is STEP Bible. https://stepbible.org/ I’m not directly involved in it, but I thought this to be significant enough to draw to your attention. Best regards, David On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 17:56, Arnaud Vié

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Michael H
Re: Lack of momentum for OSIS. OSIS as described on wikipedia is owned by a committee including United Bible Societies, SIL International, and the Society of Biblical Literature. However, this team got together and created the version that is available, then almost completely ignored it, and

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Fr Cyrille
Le 18/02/2024 à 20:42, Michael H a écrit : Re: Lack of momentum for OSIS. OSIS as described on wikipedia is owned by a committee including United Bible Societies, SIL International, and the Society of Biblical Literature. However, this team got together and created the version that is

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Sun Feb 18, 2024 at 8:57 AM CET, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > The SVN site for libsword is the current, not old. It is just > that very little changes over long stretches. Libsword is 30 Is it? The oldest revision in SVN I can find (https://git.cepl.eu/cgit/sword/commit/?id=44ffa2f5aa5f)) is from

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Michael H
And one more point for the primary, original mission that Arnaud Vié mentioned. I wrote earlier about an "unspecified versification system" in Paratext, but did not link to anything. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aR3BOGKnTJREB0bTeYEukzdcBncACwWb?usp=sharing Here are my collection of

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Michael H
And, It appears "unspecified" is no longer true for the .vrs files. https://github.com/Copenhagen-Alliance/versification-specification I don't think it's pulled back into Paratext yet, but this is an actual "spec" to look at to understand the USFM ... not USFM, but Paratext/UBS/SIL/Bible

Re: [sword-devel] Making better use of the CrossWire GitHub project ?

2024-02-18 Thread Michael H
And it's important to note that the Copenhagen-Alliance Versification Specification working group committee includes David Instone-Brewer of Tyndale House, producers of STEP Bible, which is build on Jsword, and mentioned elsewhere in this thread. On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:41 PM Michael H