Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-17 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 08/16/2013 06:37 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: Well thanks to the magic of git, you wouldn't lose anything except your log in functionality if github ever goes away. Oh, you'd also lose issues information about who branched your code, etc, but you wouldn't know that with gitorious either. The

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-16 Thread Chris Burrell
Not sure what you mean about free vs proprietary. We're not paying anything to have the CrossWire organisation in github. Chris On 14 Aug 2013 15:54, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/17/2012 09:13 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: I created a new git mirror of the SVN trunk of Sword at

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-16 Thread Mark Trompell
I guess it's about githubs source code isn't entirely free software. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Not sure what you mean about free vs proprietary. We're not paying anything to have the CrossWire organisation in github. Chris On 14 Aug 2013 15:54,

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-16 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 08/16/2013 11:50 AM, Mark Trompell wrote: I guess it's about githubs source code isn't entirely free software. To be exact, I am more concerned about my ability to install my own installation of the gitorious. It is my paranoia of having my data under the control (or at least being able to

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-16 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/16/2013 11:50 AM, Mark Trompell wrote: I guess it's about githubs source code isn't entirely free software. To be exact, I am more concerned about my ability to install my own installation of the gitorious. It is my

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-14 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 12/17/2012 09:13 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: I created a new git mirror of the SVN trunk of Sword at gitorious: Gitorious web page: https://gitorious.org/sword-svn-mirrors/trunk I haven't been satisfied with this mirror (not proper names in git fashion, no branches, and no tags), so I

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2013-08-14 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/17/2012 09:13 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: I created a new git mirror of the SVN trunk of Sword at gitorious: Gitorious web page: https://gitorious.org/sword-svn-mirrors/trunk I haven't been satisfied with this

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Jaak Ristioja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18.12.2012 00:48, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Hi Jaak. Of course I would discourage confusing potential developers with an unofficial fork of the SWORD library on gitorious. I agree that this would cause confusion. It were better to avoid. That's

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Jaak Ristioja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18.12.2012 07:11, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I have been following the discussion on the SFTP patch and hadn't seen it come to a conclusion yet regarding what might be necessary to detect SSL support in cURL. I don't feel I've been negligent with

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 18/12/12 01:10, Greg Hellings wrote: Sword's SVN (I'm guessing from gcc 4.7 patches?) but BibleTime can only reliably track released versions for the sake of packaging systems. Are you sure about this? There are many many packages in Fedora (and I believe Debian will be in the same

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 18/12/12 06:11, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Regarding release schedules, our private email conversation, Karl, were productive and I thought I had outlined a plan to you. I accept the http://producingoss.com/en/setting-tone.html#avoid-private-discussions Please. Matěj

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Jaak, I appreciate the heart of your last two emails. Collaboration has always been at the core of our purpose for the existence of CrossWire and I would love nothing more than to share together in work with you. Before I answer specifics in your emails, may I please suggest that you

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Jaak, On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Jaak Ristioja j...@ristioja.ee wrote: ... I work as a C/C++ engineer, I have a MSc in Computer Science, specializing in programming language theory. At work, I refactor a lot of code, I read the ANSI C and C++03/C++11 standards (drafts) almost

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: I deserve the rebuke for the release schedule. The release schedule was not even mentioned in the email to which I responded. Are you the only person capable of making a release? I remember talk, I believe it was in

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-18 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 18 December 2012 13:28, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On 18/12/12 01:10, Greg Hellings wrote: were mentioned (but Linux packagers will absolute forbid that); once That's just plainly not true if that should read all Linux packagers ... see for example

[sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Jaak Ristioja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! The Mirror == I created a new git mirror of the SVN trunk of Sword at gitorious: Gitorious web page: https://gitorious.org/sword-svn-mirrors/trunk Git URLs: https://git.gitorious.org/sword-svn-mirrors/trunk.git

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Chris Burrell
Can I suggest we put this on github under the crosswire organisation? We already have JSword there... github.com/crosswire Chris On 17 December 2012 20:13, Jaak Ristioja j...@ristioja.ee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! The Mirror == I created a

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Daniel Hughes
The use of SVN is increasingly viewed by opensource developers as an indication of the poor health of an opensource project. The traffic that I have seen here indicates that it is not the case for this project but it doesn't change the fact that it's use will warn potential developers away. On

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Chris Burrell
I would agree with the above with the caveat that some recent very good, very alive Apache projects are still using SVN, e.g. Hadoop, Accumulo, etc. Having said that Git makes collaborating that much easier, branches are cheap and easy, forks are easy, pulling pushing changes back from a fork is

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hi Jaak. Of course I would discourage confusing potential developers with an unofficial fork of the SWORD library on gitorious. But I'm confused by your comments. My apologies if I have any outstanding commits in my queue from you which I haven't committed. Do I? My complaint against the

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Hi Jaak. Of course I would discourage confusing potential developers with an unofficial fork of the SWORD library on gitorious. I have been maintaining a personal SWORD repository on github for quite some time now

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Nic Carter
1) writing an alternative backend for BibleTime to replace Sword, sounds like a lot of work and that time could hopefully be better spent in other ways? :/ 2) writing a better wrapper around Sword which would hide its deficiencies, Both MacSword/Eloquent PocketSword use wrappers, but

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org writes: I'm not quite sure why the rebellious nature of your email, instead of a friendly conversation Troy, I can summarize with a pair of excruciatingly simple, personal examples why this sort of rebellious plan comes into play. I've got no

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I deserve the rebuke for the release schedule. The release schedule was not even mentioned in the email to which I responded. The NASB ball was dropped by at least 2 volunteers before I personally took the task to finally make it happen (unwillingly, but I did commit and spend quite a bit of

Re: [sword-devel] New public git mirror of Sword SVN trunk and why

2012-12-17 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 17/12/12 21:13, Jaak Ristioja wrote: The Mirror == I created a new git mirror of the SVN trunk of Sword at gitorious: Gitorious web page: https://gitorious.org/sword-svn-mirrors/trunk Why don't you use https://gitorious.org/sword? I keep the project alive just for this