On 10/23/2012 03:52 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 09:14 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
On 10/22/2012 11:36 PM, David Miller wrote:
From: Doug Goldstein
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:53:57 -0500
Sets the sysfs device_type to 'vlan' for udev. This makes it easier for
applications that q
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 09:14 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
> On 10/22/2012 11:36 PM, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Doug Goldstein
> > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:53:57 -0500
> >
> >> Sets the sysfs device_type to 'vlan' for udev. This makes it easier for
> >> applications that query network information vi
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:13:32PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 23.10.12 22:38, Olav Vitters (o...@vitters.nl) wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to learn journalctl a bit.
> >
> > I'd prefer if I could do a grep -v, but in journalctl using some
> > argument, e.g. -v.
>
> Negative filtering (
On 10/23/2012 09:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Related to the tool you are suggesting I think a tool to merge split off
files might be very useful too, to counter the scalability issues of
interleaving too many separate files on display.
Yeah an extension to the journalctl and probably users w
On Tue, 23.10.12 20:52, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On 10/23/2012 06:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >The journal currently cannot do this for you, but what it already can is
> >split up the journal per-user. This is done by default only for login
> >users, (i.e. actua
On Tue, 23.10.12 22:38, Olav Vitters (o...@vitters.nl) wrote:
> I'm trying to learn journalctl a bit.
>
> I'd prefer if I could do a grep -v, but in journalctl using some
> argument, e.g. -v.
Negative filtering (i.e. not foo=bar, but foo!=bar) is currently not
implemented. I have figured out how
On 10/23/2012 06:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
The journal currently cannot do this for you, but what it already can is
split up the journal per-user. This is done by default only for login
users, (i.e. actual human users), but with the SplitMode= setting in
journald.conf can be enabled for sy
I'm trying to learn journalctl a bit.
I'd prefer if I could do a grep -v, but in journalctl using some
argument, e.g. -v.
E.g. show me all the logs _except_ mail related things:
$ journalctl -v -f SYSLOG_FACILITY=2
ideally (could this be implemented?):
$ journalctl -v -f SYSLOG_FACILITY=mail
I
On 10/23/12 21:05, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sat, 13.10.12 14:24, Olivier Brunel (i.am.jack.m...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Starting a swap unit pointing to (What) a symlink (e.g. /dev/mapper/swap
>> or /dev/disk/by-uuid/...) would have said unit be marked active, follow
>> the one using the "ac
(Ok. I've just opened another can of works... :) Thus I've changed
the subject, not to pollute the journal thread with this issue.) :)
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 23.10.12 22:14, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>> Ok.
On Tue, 23.10.12 22:27, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> In one word: a way to partition entries into multiple log files,
> >> by setting this special field.
> >
> > As mentioned we have SplitMode= for this, but it is strictly for UIDs
> > only, since we only need
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 23.10.12 22:02, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>> And the way I see benefiting from systemd would be creating
>> containers (like LXC) for each such "process".
>
> Our story regarding containers
On Tue, 23.10.12 22:14, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Why? Why would anybody want to use the journal but not systemd? People
> > who have issues with the latter usually are not rational about these
> > things, and probably have a more philosophical/religious issue wi
On Tue, 23.10.12 22:02, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > But note that the price you pay for interleaving files on display grows
> > with the more you split things up (O(n) being n number of files to
> >
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 23.10.12 20:13, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>> > The other thing is simply that the stuff is really integrated with each
>> > other. The journal sources are small because we reuse a lot of internal
On Sat, 13.10.12 14:24, Olivier Brunel (i.am.jack.m...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Starting a swap unit pointing to (What) a symlink (e.g. /dev/mapper/swap
> or /dev/disk/by-uuid/...) would have said unit be marked active, follow
> the one using the "actual" device (/dev/{dm-1,sda3}), but that new unit
>
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> But note that the price you pay for interleaving files on display grows
> with the more you split things up (O(n) being n number of files to
> interleave), hence we are a bit conservative here, we don't want to push
> people towards spli
On Thu, 18.10.12 21:03, Mirco Tischler (mt...@gmx.de) wrote:
>
> 2012/10/18 David Strauss :
> > If a service depends on a mount, systemd doesn't properly wait for the
> > mount to complete before starting the service. This creates bad race
> > conditions where the service may write to the mount d
On Tue, 23.10.12 18:52, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19.10.12 00:56, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl)
> > >
On Tue, 23.10.12 23:43, Alexander E. Patrakov (patra...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> 2012/10/21 Lennart Poettering :
> > Heya,
> >
> > I have now found the time to document the journal file format:
> >
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files
> >
> > Comments welcome!
>
> The
On Tue, 23.10.12 20:13, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > In the journal file format indexing field objects that are only
> > referenced once is practically free, as instead of storing an offset to
> > the bsearch object we use for indexing we just store the offset of th
On Tue, 23.10.12 19:11, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > Heya,
> >
> > I have now found the time to document the journal file format:
> >
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-file
2012/10/21 Lennart Poettering :
> Heya,
>
> I have now found the time to document the journal file format:
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files
>
> Comments welcome!
The doc says these two things:
1) The format is designed to be read and written via memory mapping
us
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 23.10.12 18:48, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
>> > - We needed something with in-line compression, and where we can add
>> > stuff like FSS to
>>
>> Ok. I agree that there are very few librar
From: Kay Sievers
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:34:11 +0200
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:36 AM, David Miller wrote:
>> From: Doug Goldstein
>> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:53:57 -0500
>>
>>> Sets the sysfs device_type to 'vlan' for udev. This makes it easier for
>>> applications that query network info
On 10/22/2012 11:36 PM, David Miller wrote:
From: Doug Goldstein
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:53:57 -0500
Sets the sysfs device_type to 'vlan' for udev. This makes it easier for
applications that query network information via udev to identify vlans
instead of using strrchr().
Signed-off-by: Doug
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 19.10.12 00:56, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> A series of .swap units "following" one another are replaced with a
> >> sing
On Fri, 19.10.12 00:26, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
> > I think the only real way to solve this cleanly is to extend the kernel
> > to provide SCM_CREDENTIAL and SCM_SECURITY-like auxiliary messages that
> > carries the information we need. More specifically I am hoping
On Tue, 23.10.12 18:48, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > - We needed something with in-line compression, and where we can add
> > stuff like FSS to
>
> Ok. I agree that there are very few libraries that fit here. All I
> can think of making into here would be Ber
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> Heya,
>
> I have now found the time to document the journal file format:
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files
>
> Comments welcome!
(Replying directly to this as I want to start another "sub-thread"...
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Fri, 19.10.12 00:56, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
>
>> A series of .swap units "following" one another are replaced with a
>> single unit with multiple names.
>>
>> The idea is to simplify things for the user
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 23.10.12 15:25, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>> Why did you resort to implementing a new database format, and
>> didn't choose an existing embedded library like BerkeleyDB, LevelDB,
>> etc.? (Ad
On Fri, 19.10.12 00:01, Dan Tihelka (dtihe...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hello,
> thank you for such a long and detailed answer. I do agree with you in general.
>
> Of course, there is an intersection of two words. On one side there is an
> init
> daemon being responsible for starting/stopping serv
On Fri, 19.10.12 00:56, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
> A series of .swap units "following" one another are replaced with a
> single unit with multiple names.
>
> The idea is to simplify things for the user: only one swap unit per
> swap area. It shouldn't matter whether
On Fri, 19.10.12 20:15, Mantas Mikulėnas (graw...@gmail.com) wrote:
Thanks!
Applied.
Lennart
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On Mon, 22.10.12 11:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
> > Please note the version of systemd (v44) in openSUSE doesn't have all
> > the needed bits to always display on the screen why dependency failed
> > (and you end up in emergency mode). This is fixed with systemd 195
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Tony Camuso wrote:
> HP iLO fw versions below 1.50 incorrectly report that HP iLO virtual
> Kbd/Mouse supports remote wakeup. With the rules change in commit
> 3bfc7a97b1824fcdfb738617d9a5450a20a22a0f, the HP iLO was listed for
> power control.
>
> In iLO fw versio
On Sun, 21.10.12 15:59, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Welcome to emergency mode. Use "systemctl default" or ^D to enter default
> mode.
> Give root password for login:
systemd 195 will now also mention "journalctl -b" in this
message. Originally this was only in the rescue mode
On Mon, 22.10.12 23:47, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:
> So, should the org.freedesktop.UPower.CanSuspend/Hibernate properties be
> cooked up instead to logind rather than shelling out to
> pm-is-supported?
Yes, I guess. And the clients should probably move over to logind anyway.
>
On Tue, 23.10.12 15:25, Ciprian Dorin Craciun (ciprian.crac...@gmail.com) wrote:
> But what I couldn't find in any of these documents (maybe there is
> in another one), is a justification of the current technical (i.e.
> implementation) decisions. Mainly:
That's a valid question to raise.
>
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:42:34AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
>
> Op 23 okt. 2012, om 02:56 heeft Lennart Poettering
> het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Heya!
> >
> > A non-trivial amount of cool new features, but primarily bug fixes bug
> > fixes bug fixes.
>
>
> In both 194 and 195 I have troubl
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> Heya,
>
> I have now found the time to document the journal file format:
>
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files
>
> Comments welcome!
>
> (Oh, and it's in the fdo wiki, so if you see a typo or so, go ahead and
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:36 AM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Doug Goldstein
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:53:57 -0500
>
>> Sets the sysfs device_type to 'vlan' for udev. This makes it easier for
>> applications that query network information via udev to identify vlans
>> instead of using strrchr().
From: Doug Goldstein
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:53:57 -0500
> Sets the sysfs device_type to 'vlan' for udev. This makes it easier for
> applications that query network information via udev to identify vlans
> instead of using strrchr().
>
> Signed-off-by: Doug Goldstein
You're extremely misguid
Op 23 okt. 2012, om 02:56 heeft Lennart Poettering het
volgende geschreven:
> Heya!
>
> A non-trivial amount of cool new features, but primarily bug fixes bug
> fixes bug fixes.
In both 194 and 195 I have trouble building system for my embedded systems:
| src/journal/journal-gatewayd.c: In
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