Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: The reason for increased log entries in the journal is that more things are happening now since this is what happening when a job is run. that don't change the fact that a user not acting as systemd-developer and not debugging his system

[systemd-devel] Incorrect logic when /etc/machine-id is missing

2014-09-22 Thread Jan Synacek
Hello, I believe that the following code is not correct: src/core/machine-id-setup.c:188-190: mkdir_parents(etc_machine_id, 0755); fd = open(etc_machine_id, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_CLOEXEC|O_NOCTTY, 0444); if (fd = 0) writable = true; else { fd = open(etc_machine_id,

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] udevd: SAS: use SAS addr + PHY id in by-path whenever possible.

2014-09-22 Thread Maurizio Lombardi
This patch changes the naming scheme for sas disks. The original names used disk's sas address and lun, the new scheme uses sas address of the nearest expander (if available) and a phy id of the used connection. If no expander is used, the phy id of hba phy is used. Note that names that refer to

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 11:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/22/2014 09:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: The reason for increased log entries in the journal is that more things are happening now

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/22/2014 11:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/22/2014 09:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: The reason for increased log entries in

Re: [systemd-devel] Incorrect logic when /etc/machine-id is missing

2014-09-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 22/09/14 10:27, Jan Synacek wrote: If /etc/machine-id is missing on the system, the first open() call should probably handle that case. That's actually not true (at least on my system), because the underlying filesystem is read-only at that time. *What* is not true on your system? Are you

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/22/2014 11:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/22/2014 09:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Jóhann B.

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Then file a bug report against rsyslog and provide a patch which fixes the default log filtering in Fedora to your expectation but leave systemd out of it. wow - in any other case the systemd developers saying that they don't

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-22 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
On 22 September 2014 07:57, Alexander Groleau awg...@xbetanet.com wrote: I have tried the following script as well during my adventures with no success: [Unit] Description=Start/Stop Libvirt Windows Guest Documentation=man:libvirtd(8) Documentation=http://libvirt.org After=libvirtd.service

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-22 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Sep 22, 2014 4:07 PM, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice tobias.geerinckx.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 September 2014 07:57, Alexander Groleau awg...@xbetanet.com wrote: I have tried the following script as well during my adventures with no success: [Unit] Description=Start/Stop Libvirt Windows

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Philippe De Swert
Hi, On 22/09/14 15:58, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Then file a bug report against rsyslog and provide a patch which fixes the default log filtering in Fedora to your expectation but leave systemd out of it. wow - in any other case the

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 12:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: i suggest you get rid of that arrogance and some other developers too because it's the reason for the subject and proves that you *do not* care about users as long you have not the same opinion you are the one demanding a friendly tone from me,

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Dale R. Worley
From: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson Did you ever ask yourself why your project provokes that amount of resistance and polarity? Did you ever ask yourself whether this really is just resistance against anything new from people who just do not like new or whether it contains*valuable*

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 22/09/14 10:23, Reindl Harald wrote: honestly the messages about reaching target are nonsense without a prefix pointing out that it is about a *user session* because it looks like a bootlog every minute You can tell this is not the system instance of systemd (init) because its process ID

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 16:41 schrieb Simon McVittie: On 22/09/14 10:23, Reindl Harald wrote: honestly the messages about reaching target are nonsense without a prefix pointing out that it is about a *user session* because it looks like a bootlog every minute You can tell this is not the system

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-22 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
On 22 September 2014 15:36, Mantas Mikulėnas graw...@gmail.com wrote: [Nonsense] Neither Requires nor BindsTo imply any ordering though. So that might in fact *create* race conditions, if both A and B start at once, but A already expects B to be available. [Indeed. That whole paragraph was

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] udevd: SAS: use SAS addr + PHY id in by-path whenever possible.

2014-09-22 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Maurizio, On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Maurizio Lombardi mlomb...@redhat.com wrote: This patch changes the naming scheme for sas disks. The original names used disk's sas address and lun, the new scheme uses sas address of the nearest expander (if available) and a phy id of the used

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/22/2014 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/22/2014 11:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 September 2014 15:16, Dale R. Worley wor...@alum.mit.edu wrote: 2. Systemd includes a tremendous number of features and behaviors, but a lot of them aren't documented very well. That's not so unusual in Un*x, but if you're introducing something new, nobody has any prior knowledge of

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] journalctl: allow customizable output formats

2014-09-22 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
The current '--output FORMAT' argument defines a number of common output formats, but there are some useful cases it does cover. In particular when reading application logs it is often desirable to display the code file name, line number and function name. Rather than defining yet more fixed

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] udevd: SAS: use SAS addr + PHY id in by-path whenever possible.

2014-09-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/09/14 17:58, Tom Gundersen wrote: Hi Maurizio, On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Maurizio Lombardi mlomb...@redhat.com wrote: This patch changes the naming scheme for sas disks. The original names used disk's sas address and lun, the new scheme uses sas address of the nearest

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] shared/util.h: portable sizeof(long) == sizeof(int) test

2014-09-22 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Emil Renner Berthing syst...@esmil.dk wrote: On 19 September 2014 22:19, David Herrmann dh.herrm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Emil Renner Berthing syst...@esmil.dk wrote: Don't rely on __WORDSIZE, but just standard LONG_MAX and

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] journalctl: allow customizable output formats

2014-09-22 Thread Daurnimator
On 22 September 2014 11:33, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: The current '--output FORMAT' argument defines a number of common output formats, but there are some useful cases it does cover. In particular when reading application logs it is often desirable to display the code file

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] journalctl: allow customizable output formats

2014-09-22 Thread Ivan Shapovalov
On Monday 22 September 2014 at 12:43:28, Daurnimator wrote: On 22 September 2014 11:33, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: The current '--output FORMAT' argument defines a number of common output formats, but there are some useful cases it does cover. In particular when

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-22 Thread Alexander Groleau
Hmm, This is a fresh installation of arch linux with systemd. What else might be terminating my daemons or how might I be able to figure that out? Thanks, Alex On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice tobias.geerinckx.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 September 2014 15:36, Mantas

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] runtime configurable timer

2014-09-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 04:20:14PM +0900, WaLyong Cho wrote: Before start working it, we need some of discussion about how make the transient unit. I think we have two options. One is, as you said, make systemd-at and the other is add option to systemd-run. (e.g. --OnCalendar=, --OnActiveSec=

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-22 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
On 23 September 2014 01:10, Alexander Groleau awg...@xbetanet.com wrote: Hmm, This is a fresh installation of arch linux with systemd. What else might be terminating my daemons or how might I be able to figure that out? A cursory search linked that suspicious EOF error message to libvirtd

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-22 Thread Alexander Groleau
Thanks Tobias for all of the responses. Yes, I am using plain, unaliased jounalctl on Arch Linux with systemd 216. In fact, I see absolutely no Starting Stopping service messages outside of standard triggers. Is something wrong with my distro? :/ Was the logging changed in 216? -Alex On Mon, Sep