Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] cryptsetup-generator: support rd.luks.key=keyfile:keyfile_device

2015-02-22 Thread Jan Synacek
Andrei Borzenkov writes: > В Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:56:42 +0100 > Jan Synacek пишет: > >> To be more consistent with how dracut parses rd.luks.key, it is now >> allowed to specified it in the format "keyfile[:keyfile_device]". >> >> Should keyfile_device be provided, it needs to be in "UUID=uuid-h

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 22/02/15 a las 22:37, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton escribió: well, you could provide hints in the documentation (and force them to be read by deliberately changing the API) Wow.. so what you want is even nuttier than I thought.. that would be a good place to start, showing people how t

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 22/02/15 a las 23:08, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton escribió: the problem, zbigniew, is that the intended use of this "silent noop" feature - to make it *possible* to have an alternative PID1 - *hasn't happened*. any upstream software developer who has added in support for systemd has done

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [2015-02-23 2:08 +]: > the problem, zbigniew, is that the intended use of this "silent noop" > feature - to make it *possible* to have an alternative PID1 - *hasn't > happened*. It sure has. Debian supports systemd, SysV init, and to a lesser degree OpenRC and up

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Shawn Landden
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton < l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > i don't know if you've seen this yet: > > http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/02/15/1959209/removing-libsystemd0-from-a-live-running-debian-system > > my name's luke leighton, i'm a software libre advocate, and

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:58:25PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> ...except that its introduction (usually --with-libsystemd) in those >> 100 (or so) packages has been done in a mutually-exclusive, >> hard-comp

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Cameron Norman wrote: >>> ...except that its introduction (usually --with-libsystemd) in those >>> 100 (or so) packages has been done in a mutually-exclusive, >>> hard-compile-time switch that *excludes* the possibility of dynamic >>> (runtime) decision-making. >

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 17.02.15 20:24, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (l...@lkcl.net) wrote: > >> i note that there was announcement recently that the systemd team >> 'listens to users', so i am taking you at your word on that. > > Hmm, I am not aware

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Cameron Norman
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:58:25PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tobias Hunger >> wrote: >> > Hi Luke, >> > >> > I am mostly a lurker on the systemd mailing list, so my opinion

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:58:25PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tobias Hunger > wrote: > > Hi Luke, > > > > I am mostly a lurker on the systemd mailing list, so my opinion does > > not carry weight in this community. > > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tobias Hunger wrote: > Hi Luke, > > I am mostly a lurker on the systemd mailing list, so my opinion does > not carry weight in this community. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote:> so i'm not going to "protest" - i'm going to

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > There is no such dependency in Debian either [1]. > Luke simply has no idea what he is talking about. > It would be great if Luke did some basic research and educate himself > and not spread such misinformation. michael, greg's approach

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 08:24:37PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> so i'm not going to "protest" - i'm going to try a different approach. >> i'd like you to look at this list of debian packages that are >> dependent on libsystemd0: >>

Re: [systemd-devel] A use case for staged startup

2015-02-22 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jeff Waugh: > - systemd dutifully starts all the services it knows about during the > initrd.target run, because they're all right there on the read-only > filesystem … and because, I assume, they're implied by default.target. So why don't you start the system with some different target that

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] po: update French translation

2015-02-22 Thread Ronny Chevalier
Le 19 février 2015 23:31, Sylvain Plantefève a écrit : > --- > po/fr.po | 76 > +--- > 1 file changed, 68 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/po/fr.po b/po/fr.po > index 8e44e0c..58a0b85 100644 > --- a/po/fr.po > +++ b/po/fr.

Re: [systemd-devel] heads-up: chasing journal(?) related regression in 219 causing boot hang/fail

2015-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Lennart Poettering [2015-02-20 17:02 +0100]: > To me this appears as if dbus is hanging for some reason. Have you > checked what dbus is doing? D-Bus itself seems to be fine. There are services on it, busctl works, etc. Anyway, I now have a capable enough arsenal to reproduce that hang fully auto

Re: [systemd-devel] A use case for staged startup

2015-02-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > Do you really need to fully overlay root? I.e. is it possible to just > (bind-)mount /etc, /var? /usr should be possible to retain read-only. > Once the upper layer of the overlayfs is JFFS2 (as intended), then it's more interesting to h

Re: [systemd-devel] pam_limits: Could not set limit for ...: Operation not permitted

2015-02-22 Thread Kai Krakow
Kai Krakow schrieb: >>> But now I got a new message in the log: >>> Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 >> >> Hmm, maybe Gentoo ships some dbus hookup for systemd user sessions >> that triggers this? > > It's triggered by gnome-keyring-daemon... I already set DISPLAY=:0

Re: [systemd-devel] Removing unnecessary includes

2015-02-22 Thread Thomas H.P. Andersen
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: >> On Sat, 07.02.15 10:29, Thomas H.P. Andersen (pho...@gmail.com) wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am looking at ways to automatically trim the unnecessary includes. >>> One w

Re: [systemd-devel] Removing image from /var/lib/machines

2015-02-22 Thread Peter Paule
Does it make sense to avoid copying /etc/resolv.conf to a container if the filesystem is read-only? sudo /usr/bin/systemd-nspawn --read-only -M docker-centos-nginx --read-only /usr/sbin/nginx Failed to copy /etc/resolv.conf to /var/lib/machines/docker-centos-nginx/etc/resolv.conf: Rea