Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-23 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
В Wed, 23 Apr 2014 05:57:39 +0200 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net пишет: Ah, OK, I think I got it now: You have services that are to be started by timers that take a long time to complete. THe timers have been configured to be persistent. If the system comes up and the timestamp

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 23.04.14 21:01, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: В Wed, 23 Apr 2014 05:57:39 +0200 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net пишет: Ah, OK, I think I got it now: You have services that are to be started by timers that take a long time to complete. THe timers

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-23 Thread Leonid Isaev
Hi, On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 05:57:39 +0200 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: [...] Ah, OK, I think I got it now: You have services that are to be started by timers that take a long time to complete. THe timers have been configured to be persistent. If the system comes up and

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 23.04.14 13:15, Leonid Isaev (lis...@umail.iu.edu) wrote: Hmm, this sounds nasty. I wodner what we can do about it... Maybe we should add a new setting PersistentExtraSec= to timer units or so which allows delaying these kind of timers by an extra margin. Would this work for

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-23 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
В Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:30:35 +0200 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net пишет: On Wed, 23.04.14 13:15, Leonid Isaev (lis...@umail.iu.edu) wrote: Hmm, this sounds nasty. I wodner what we can do about it... Maybe we should add a new setting PersistentExtraSec= to timer units or

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-22 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 22.04.2014 07:07, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Fri, 18.04.14 11:34, Thomas Bächler (tho...@archlinux.org) wrote: According to [1], when a persistent timer runs its service on boot, it delays startup. Humm? What precisely do you mean by delays bootup? Just scheduling a timer unit

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-22 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: I'm CC'ing the original reporter, maybe he can give more information. I think you forgot to do that... -t ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-22 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 22.04.2014 10:33, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: I'm CC'ing the original reporter, maybe he can give more information. I think you forgot to do that... Strange stuff - he is listed in CC in the mail I received, but his

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-22 Thread Leonid Isaev
Hi, I'll try to answer all questions at once... On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:37:29 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 22.04.2014 07:07, schrieb Lennart Poettering: Humm? What precisely do you mean by delays bootup? Just scheduling a timer unit should have about zero

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 22.04.14 12:13, Leonid Isaev (lis...@umail.iu.edu) wrote: Am 22.04.2014 07:07, schrieb Lennart Poettering: Humm? What precisely do you mean by delays bootup? Just scheduling a timer unit should have about zero effect on boot times... If it does this would be a bug. This is

Re: [systemd-devel] Persistent timers delay Type=idle units

2014-04-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 18.04.14 11:34, Thomas Bächler (tho...@archlinux.org) wrote: According to [1], when a persistent timer runs its service on boot, it delays startup. Humm? What precisely do you mean by delays bootup? Just scheduling a timer unit should have about zero effect on boot times... If it does