Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-13 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 13/01/14 19:42, Dominique Michel escribió: Or I am wrong and systemd will not work without the kernel cgroups? systemd *requires* cgroups, what you can disable are certain controllers. I do not know to which extent this ability to disable controllers will remain in place. Whatever is decid

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-13 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:39:57 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > Hello, > > You're approaching this whole thread from a fixed position and > therefore seem to be seeing *everything* as negative and > problematic. Hi, You are partly right on this. In the mean time, I read other things on the cgrou

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-13 Thread Colin Guthrie
Hello, You're approaching this whole thread from a fixed position and therefore seem to be seeing *everything* as negative and problematic. Rather than coming here with problem and looking for a solution, you've arrived with a solution already designed and seem to be complaining that it won't wor

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-13 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:07:45 -0800, Greg KH a écrit : > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48:56PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: > > I need that pc for production, so I rapidly installed another > > distribution without systemd. So this problem is solved for me, but > > that doesn't solve that to force

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-13 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 13.01.2014 02:47, schrieb Kay Sievers: >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Greg KH wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48:56PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: I need that pc for production, so I rapidly installed another distr

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-13 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.01.2014 02:47, schrieb Kay Sievers: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48:56PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: >>> I need that pc for production, so I rapidly installed another >>> distribution without systemd. So this problem is solved for me, but

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48:56PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: >> I need that pc for production, so I rapidly installed another >> distribution without systemd. So this problem is solved for me, but >> that doesn't solve that to force any user t

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-12 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48:56PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: > I need that pc for production, so I rapidly installed another > distribution without systemd. So this problem is solved for me, but > that doesn't solve that to force any user to use a default > configuration without any possibilit

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-12 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:09:15 -0800, Greg KH a écrit : > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 06:10:34PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: > > Last, this systemd patch is more than 3 years old now, and I also > > just found that freedesktop is involved in that mess: > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sy

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and cgroups

2014-01-12 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 06:10:34PM +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: > Last, this systemd patch is more than 3 years old now, and I also > just found that freedesktop is involved in that mess: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ControlGroupInterface/ > > So, that imply, if I am right

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd and cgroups

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin Wilson
Thanks! KV On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Wilson wrote: >> Hello, >> This is a default fedore 18 machine with default kernel. Kernel came >> with the F18 disto, no changes. No special things like LXC/OpenVZ. So >> I guess no 3rd part

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd and cgroups

2013-04-11 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > This is a default fedore 18 machine with default kernel. Kernel came > with the F18 disto, no changes. No special things like LXC/OpenVZ. So > I guess no 3rd party mount any cgroup. > >>then systemd itself will mount all the resource

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd and cgroups

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hello, This is a default fedore 18 machine with default kernel. Kernel came with the F18 disto, no changes. No special things like LXC/OpenVZ. So I guess no 3rd party mount any cgroup. >then systemd itself will mount all the resource controllers that are compiled into the kernel. How ? I don't kn

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd and cgroups

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:43:56PM +0300, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > I have a question about systemd and cgroups: > "mount | grep cgroups" shows that only one entry has name=systemd. > and is mounted on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd . (see below the full output > of "mount | grep cgroups" > > Is it t