Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 20.01.14 13:42, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > > But while systemd is starting your system the syslog might not be > > ready. Probably systemd has some buffer, where it buffers the output. > > Once syslog becomes available, it will be fed with the buffer's > > contents fir

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-20 Thread Barry Scott
I drafted this last week, sorry for the delay. On Wed 15 Jan 2014 16:44:21 Holger Schurig wrote: > Educated guess (!) > > With LogLevel=debug, you generate huge amounts of output. With LogTarget=syslog-or-kmsg and kernel not quiet I would expect to see the first few debug messages before it hun

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-20 Thread Barry Scott
On Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:21:14 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 20.01.14 11:22, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > > On Fri 17 Jan 2014 21:17:04 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Tue, 14.01.14 13:31, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > > > > systemd-208-9.fc20.x86_64 > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 20.01.14 11:22, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > > On Fri 17 Jan 2014 21:17:04 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 14.01.14 13:31, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > > > systemd-208-9.fc20.x86_64 > > > > > > We have been porting a working configuration from

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 17.01.14 16:52, David Timothy Strauss (da...@davidstrauss.net) wrote: > It would be nice if bootup could realize the journal queue is full and > wait for journal startup before proceeding further. It might cause > some annoying non-determinism, though. Not following here. Logging in syslo

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-20 Thread Barry Scott
On Fri 17 Jan 2014 21:17:04 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 14.01.14 13:31, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > > systemd-208-9.fc20.x86_64 > > > > We have been porting a working configuration from fedora 19 to fedora 20. > > After systemd prints the Welcome message it then hangs.

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-18 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Dominique Michel wrote: > In /etc/fstab, we can set if a partition must be mounted or not at > boot time, but not if, in the case it must be mounted, that partition is > vital for the system (i.e. / or /var) and the system must wait for it to > be mounted, or if th

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Dominique Michel wrote: > Le Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:52:44 -0800, > David Timothy Strauss a écrit : > >> It would be nice if bootup could realize the journal queue is full and >> wait for journal startup before proceeding further. It might cause >> some annoying non-d

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-18 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:52:44 -0800, David Timothy Strauss a écrit : > It would be nice if bootup could realize the journal queue is full and > wait for journal startup before proceeding further. It might cause > some annoying non-determinism, though. > > We primarily see the problem with the log

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-17 Thread David Timothy Strauss
It would be nice if bootup could realize the journal queue is full and wait for journal startup before proceeding further. It might cause some annoying non-determinism, though. We primarily see the problem with the logging from automounts and mount units. __

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-17 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Note that during really early boot the journal is not available yet, > which means we can only log to kmsg then (and thus the > console). However, as soon as the journal is available we then start > logging directly to the journal. This

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 14.01.14 13:31, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: > systemd-208-9.fc20.x86_64 > > We have been porting a working configuration from fedora 19 to fedora 20. > After systemd prints the Welcome message it then hangs. What do you mean by "hangs"? Is it just the output that doesn'

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-17 Thread David Timothy Strauss
We're running into this too with lots of automount units. They log a fair bit as they start, and that overwhelms the journal buffer before it starts. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/l

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd hangs after Welcome message when LogLevel=debug

2014-01-15 Thread Holger Schurig
Educated guess (!) With LogLevel=debug, you generate huge amounts of output. With DefaultStandardOutput=syslog, you're asking systemd to send it's output to syslog. But while systemd is starting your system the syslog might not be ready. Probably systemd has some buffer, where it buffers the out