05.09.2020 01:05, Lennart Poettering пишет:
>
> I explained this already. DNS server data today is much less config
> than state, acquired dynamically via DHCP, hence most distros don#t
> configure it in /etc so much anymore, but manage it in /run (where
> transient state is generally kept), and o
Hi all,
Quoting from another thread:
On 5/09/20 4:36 am, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Unit instances can be activated on-the-fly without further prepartion
> or regsitration of the instance string or so. it's sufficient if the
> template unit exists.
Is that preventable?
I have some instance nam
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On So, 30.08.20 12:23, Ehud Cseresnyes (e...@posteo.de) wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm running into issues regarding systemd-homed. I couldn't find an
> answer in the manuals, any forums and nobody could help me in #systemd
> either, which is why I turned to this list.
>
> Basically, I have a vali
On Mo, 24.08.20 01:24, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
> User reports this from 'homectl inspect'
>
> LUKS Discard: online=no offline=yes
>
> Does this mean 'fstrim' is issued before luksClose? And 'fallocate' is
> issued before luksOpen?
Yes.
Lennart
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"is automatically acquire and automatically released and automatically
manage"
And this is just what a timezone. "I think this discussion kinda lost its
usefulness, I am just repeating myself"
Ohh I knew that you narcissist
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Shravan Singh
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Blue Sparq, Inc.
928 NE 24th Lane
On Fr, 04.09.20 18:16, Shravan Singh (shra...@bluesparq.com) wrote:
> What constitutes a configuration?
> And please read my email subject. I can't have writable /etc, mender
> dosen't allow that.
Well, then that's sad, and something to bring up with mender? if they
do not allow local config, the
And this is a major problem for any one running raspberry pi, NXP or any
other embedded processor that uses mender and embedded linux.
A machine with embedded linux running on it goes to San Francisco and then
transported to Chicago.
And you are saying that we shouldn't be allowed to change the tim
On Fr, 04.09.20 21:53, Francis Moreau (francis.m...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a service which is activated by a socket unit. When systemd
> passes the (netlink) socket to my service it seems that it still keeps
> a reference on the socket, at least ss(8) showed this.
>
> Is this expected
What constitutes a configuration?
And please read my email subject. I can't have writable /etc, mender
dosen't allow that.
In today's mobile computing age you really think users shouldn't change
timezone?
You keep saying " I for one am certainly not convinced that the timezones"
but you don't expl
On Fr, 04.09.20 21:41, Dave Howorth (syst...@howorth.org.uk) wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:44:23 +0200
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> >
> > > > No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot
> > > > loader, it
On Fr, 04.09.20 21:51, Dave Howorth (syst...@howorth.org.uk) wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:32:19 +0200
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Fr, 04.09.20 14:10, Shravan Singh (shra...@bluesparq.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Lennart,
> > >
> > > Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejec
This is the link:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/8277
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(239) 243-0838
Blue Sparq, Inc.
928 NE 24th Lane unit 4 and 5.
Cape Coral, FL 33993
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On Fr, 04.09.20 15:54, Shravan Singh (shra...@bluesparq.com) wrote:
> Yes, But help me understand.
> I think you said that you are not convinced as to why that has to done.
>
> My argument is very simple shouldn't a Linux environment allow change in
> timezone easily?
Oh we do. But if your want c
On Fr, 04.09.20 22:02, Dave Howorth (syst...@howorth.org.uk) wrote:
> > (btw, systemd-timesyncd does what fake-hwclock does automatically, and
> > also does SNTP. it should be fine for most usecases, no need to resort
> > to fake-hwclock)
> >
> > Lennart
>
> This is a serious problem for anybody r
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:59:02 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Do, 27.08.20 11:33, Mark Corbin (m...@dibsco.co.uk) wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > I am working on time synchronisation issues at boot for systems
> > without an RTC (using balenaOS on a Raspberry Pi 3) and have some
> > questions about
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:32:19 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fr, 04.09.20 14:10, Shravan Singh (shra...@bluesparq.com) wrote:
>
> > Hello Lennart,
> >
> > Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejected?
> > *Make timedatectl nicely work with read-only filesystems #8277 *
>
> T
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:44:23 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
> > > No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot
> > > loader, it should contain a fragile storage stack. It's kinda
> > > what sd-boot is suppose
Yes, But help me understand.
I think you said that you are not convinced as to why that has to done.
My argument is very simple shouldn't a Linux environment allow change in
timezone easily?
Now I am not an expert in Linux kernel development. But I see that some of
the files, even though they resi
Hi,
I have a service which is activated by a socket unit. When systemd
passes the (netlink) socket to my service it seems that it still keeps
a reference on the socket, at least ss(8) showed this.
Is this expected ? If yes can this be prevented ?
I'm asking because my service may not need the so
On Fr, 04.09.20 14:10, Shravan Singh (shra...@bluesparq.com) wrote:
> Hello Lennart,
>
> Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejected?
> *Make timedatectl nicely work with read-only filesystems #8277 *
The explanation is in the PR comments.
Lennart
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2020, 4:15 pm Lennart Poettering,
wrote:
> On Mo, 17.08.20 16:49, Andy Pieters (syst...@andypieters.me.uk) wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Is it possible (and if so, how?) to define a conflict on any other
> instance
> > of a template unit?
>
> no. this is not available.
> --
> Lennart Poet
Hello Lennart,
Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejected?
*Make timedatectl nicely work with read-only filesystems #8277 *
If there is some major issue. I would like to take this opportunity to make
it right and submit it again
Regards,
Shravan Singh
(239) 243-0838
Blue Sparq,
On So, 23.08.20 06:34, Andrii Zymohliad (azymohl...@protonmail.com) wrote:
> Thanks for taking time to read this far! Is there anything obvious
> here that I can do to fix it? Or any hints where to look?
So as you figured out by now this is due to homed's "discard"
handling. At logout we'll disca
Hi,
while I appreciate the extensive online documentation of systemd,
it can be further improved since not everyone uses the
latest-and-greatest version.
I recently found a newly documented feature called ExecCondition=
which would have been nice to use a couple of times if I knew about it.
To m
On Mo, 31.08.20 16:50, Konstantin Ryabitsev (konstan...@linuxfoundation.org)
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:49:32PM -0400, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> > Yes, to get the instance-named symlink created.
This is not necessary.
Unit instances can be activated on-the-fly without further prepartio
On Mo, 31.08.20 16:36, Konstantin Ryabitsev (konstan...@linuxfoundation.org)
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:20:13PM -0400, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> > Did you also create an instance of the timer with the same instance
> > suffix? I've got a configuration working like that and it works fine.
On Mo, 31.08.20 17:18, Konstantin Ryabitsev (konstan...@linuxfoundation.org)
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:20:13PM -0400, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> > Did you also create an instance of the timer with the same instance
> > suffix? I've got a configuration working like that and it works fine.
On Mo, 31.08.20 14:19, Konstantin Ryabitsev (konstan...@linuxfoundation.org)
wrote:
> However, it doesn't appear to be working for a service triggered via a
> timer -- the process still runs as mirror/mirror.
Activation for services is exactly the same regardless how the
activation is triggred.
On Fr, 28.08.20 14:34, Mark Corbin (m...@dibsco.co.uk) wrote:
> For example, when /run/log/journal/d197a2e910964a7f9a0de6462d0d7c62/
> contains just 'system.journal' which has all log messages from:
>
> 'kernel: Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0'
> up to and including:
> 'fake-hwclock[827]: Fri Au
Am 04.09.20 um 17:52 schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 04.09.20 um 17:37 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>> userdbd is activated on demand and exit-on-idle btw. it exits after
>> 25s of no client making any request. if you have it running this means
>> stuff is using it.
well, tell why it is still running
On Fr, 28.08.20 10:20, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote:
> The code in the kernel relies on feeding the random pool probably before
> getting the first UUID (but obviously too late for boot_id):
The boot ID code is in the kernel. It knows better than userspace when
the entro
On Fr, 28.08.20 10:54, Pekka Paalanen (ppaala...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:33:04 +0100
> Mark Corbin wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > I am working on time synchronisation issues at boot for systems without
> > an RTC (using balenaOS on a Raspberry Pi 3) and have some questions
> > abou
On Do, 27.08.20 11:33, Mark Corbin (m...@dibsco.co.uk) wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am working on time synchronisation issues at boot for systems without an
> RTC (using balenaOS on a Raspberry Pi 3) and have some questions about how
> journald assigns timestamps to log messages.
>
> When I boot my system
Am 04.09.20 um 17:44 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
>>> No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot loader,
>>> it should contain a fragile storage stack. It's kinda what sd-boot is
>>> supposed to do better
Am 04.09.20 um 17:37 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Mo, 24.08.20 13:40, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
>> is taht growing amount of services running on all systems really
>> necessary and why are things like "repart.service" and "homed.service"
>> are started "static" which ma
On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> > No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot loader,
> > it should contain a fragile storage stack. It's kinda what sd-boot is
> > supposed to do better than grub.
>
> well, a boot loader should just *load* an
On Di, 25.08.20 07:43, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The next challenge with systemd would be this: Have a password-protected
> server key, needing to ask for the password when starting...
Friendly distros set this up for you out-of-the-box. For example
Fedora
On Mo, 24.08.20 13:40, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> is taht growing amount of services running on all systems really
> necessary and why are things like "repart.service" and "homed.service"
> are started "static" which makes the concept of enable/disable things
> more and more o
On Do, 20.08.20 14:22, Shravan Singh (shra...@bluesparq.com) wrote:
> But no one is telling how to resolve my issue with a read-only
> rootfs.
There's no concept for having some files in /etc writable and others
not. And you cannot use symlinking for this, nor bind mounts, since
config files in /
On Fr, 14.08.20 13:56, Marc Lasch (mla...@mailbox.org) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently stumbled across the following section in the systemd-networkd
> documentation for IPv6AcceptRA=:
>
> "Note that kernel's implementation of the IPv6 RA protocol is always
> disabled, regardless of this setting. [.
On Mo, 17.08.20 16:49, Andy Pieters (syst...@andypieters.me.uk) wrote:
> Hi
>
> Is it possible (and if so, how?) to define a conflict on any other instance
> of a template unit?
no. this is not available.
We have no wildcard deps. Thing is that units can come and go
dynamically, hence implementi
Am 04.09.20 um 16:58 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Mo, 22.06.20 16:01, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
>> what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at
>> the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot?
>>
>> * how to get in installed from a live-iso
On Mo, 03.08.20 08:32, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote:
> OK, some additional notes (maybe these issues are fixed in a newer version
> already):
> Looking in my /var/log/messages, I see higher resolution of time stamps, and
> specifically I see the original core-dump message
On Di, 14.07.20 15:15, Hans de Goede (hdego...@redhat.com) wrote:
> But then how would gdm re-mark as bad when starting to login the user and
> how would the user-session mark things as good, in a way that does not
> require root rights ?
PolicyKit helper invoked via pkexec or so?
Lennart
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Le
On Mo, 22.06.20 16:01, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at
> the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot?
>
> * how to get in installed from a live-iso to
> the existing setup on disk
> * how to get the config
On Mo, 22.06.20 18:21, Mantas Mikulėnas (graw...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > can /boot holding the kernel itself still be a Linux RAID1 or classical
> > ext4 partition or is it required that the kernel and initrd live on the
> > EFI partition too?
>
> For systemd-boot, the kernel is required to be on th
On Di, 26.05.20 16:55, Pekka Paalanen (ppaala...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking at letting Weston's 'meson test' run DRM-backend tests
> automatically and without the need of root privileges. I have a spare
> DRM device in my machine that is dedicated for this purpose, so I make
> my norm
On So, 23.08.20 14:47, Daan De Meyer (daan.j.deme...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After following
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/socket-activated-containers.html
> which details how to set up a socket activated container, I'm looking
> into ways to have the container automatically shut down whe
On Di, 19.05.20 11:30, Arian Van Putten (ar...@wire.com) wrote:
> Hey list,
Sorry for the late response, this somehow managed to escape me.
> systemd-timesyncd has an Alias=dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service and
> an accompanying dbus service file too.
>
> It is started in early boot; `Befo
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