[systemd-devel] shutdown now --no-wall # messages & the lack thereof

2020-10-08 Thread F. Fox
> It appears that the systemctl implementation has changed the behaviour, > and the documentation. Whether there is a spec anywhere (POSIX or > whatever) I do not know - but certainly a man page is not a spec. systemd might still be UNIX compliant here, as https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9

Re: [systemd-devel] Q: shutdown messages and the lack of such

2020-10-08 Thread Dave Howorth
On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 16:44:28 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:29:24 + > fox wrote: > > > I wonder: Shouldn't here be an infiormational message at least > > > when the shutdown command is entered, and at least a notice > > > message when the actual shutdown time has arrived? >

Re: [systemd-devel] Q: shutdown messages and the lack of such

2020-10-08 Thread Dave Howorth
On Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:29:24 + fox wrote: > > I wonder: Shouldn't here be an infiormational message at least when > > the shutdown command is entered, and at least a notice message when > > the actual shutdown time has arrived? > > If you review syslog laternot at all obvious what had happened

[systemd-devel] Q: shutdown messages and the lack of such

2020-10-08 Thread fox
I wonder: Shouldn't here be an infiormational message at least when the shutdown command is entered, and at least a notice message when the actual shutdown time has arrived? If you review syslog laternot at all obvious what had happened. shutdown [OPTIONS...] [TIME] [WALL...] Note th

[systemd-devel] Q: shutdown messages and the lack of such

2020-10-08 Thread Ulrich Windl
Hi! I hadn't used shutdown without "now" for a long time, but to day I did: I was surprised about the messages: In traditional UNIX shutdown would announce the shutdown using wall messages. With systemd (in SLES12 SP5 this time) there was no message sent to the users and even in the journal the