Re: [systemd-devel] Best way to run upstream systemd

2018-08-02 Thread ChenQi

On 07/19/2018 06:26 AM, Juanjo Presa wrote:
I wonder which ways are to run last systemd versions? nowadays Im 
running Centos 7 with systemd facebook backports 
(https://github.com/facebookincubator/rpm-backports). But maybe you 
guys have another way, NixOs? Archlinux?


Tyvm.


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In order to use latest systemd, you need to ensure
1) things that depend on systemd also change accordingly
2) optionally get a recent kernel so that features added to systemd 
based on recent improvements on kernels could also be used.


In summary, you need a build system that could build latest systemd (and 
optionally latest kernel) and rebuild other dependencies accordingly.


I'm a yocto developer. And as a playground, I'm using local kernel and 
systemd projects which track the latest upstream kernel and systemd.


Best Regards,
Chen Qi

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Re: [systemd-devel] Best way to run upstream systemd

2018-08-01 Thread ChenQi

On 07/19/2018 06:26 AM, Juanjo Presa wrote:
I wonder which ways are to run last systemd versions? nowadays Im 
running Centos 7 with systemd facebook backports 
(https://github.com/facebookincubator/rpm-backports). But maybe you 
guys have another way, NixOs? Archlinux?


Tyvm.


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In order to use latest systemd, you need to ensure
1) things that depend on systemd also change accordingly
2) optionally get a recent kernel so that features added to systemd 
based on recent improvements on kernels could also be used.


In summary, you need a build system that could build latest systemd (and 
optionally latest kernel) and rebuild other dependencies accordingly.


I'm a yocto developer, and as a playground, I'm using local kernel and 
systemd projects which track the latest upstream kernel and systemd.


Best Regards,
Chen Qi
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Re: [systemd-devel] Best way to run upstream systemd

2018-08-01 Thread Auke Kok
On 07/18/2018 03:26 PM, Juanjo Presa wrote:
> I wonder which ways are to run last systemd versions? nowadays Im
> running Centos 7 with systemd facebook backports
> (https://github.com/facebookincubator/rpm-backports). But maybe you guys
> have another way, NixOs? Archlinux?

You could always check Clear Linux OS (disclaimer: obviously I get paid
to work on that) and since we have live images etc. You could even use
e.g. the free tier in AWS to check, or just get a live KVM image.

We're at 239 right now. We usually take 2-4 weeks to update to the
latest systemd version.

Cheers,

Auke
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Re: [systemd-devel] Best way to run upstream systemd

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Biebl
2018-07-19 1:46 GMT+02:00 Ryan Gonzalez :
> The fastest any distro is going to get systemd would probably be from a
> bleeding-edge distro (e.g. Fedora Rawhide). If you don't want you system to
> be a disaster zone, though, Arch got systemd 237 just two weeks after
> release.
>
> Fedora will push systemd releases with their new versions, which come out
> every six months, and I believe non-LTS Ubuntu distros are probably the
> same.
>
> Anything LTS though (like Ubuntu LTS, Debian, or your own CentOS) is going
> to be the absolute *worst* for getting pretty much anything new...
>

Keep in mind that Fedora Rawhide is the development branch of fedora.
If you are open to that, you can just as well also use Debian sid,
which usually get's new systemd releases within a couple of days (e.g.
v239 was realised 22.6.18, uploaded to Debian a couple hours later at
23.6.18).
Those uploads then migrate to Debian testing automatically after a few
days, if no regressions are found.


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Re: [systemd-devel] Best way to run upstream systemd

2018-07-18 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
The fastest any distro is going to get systemd would probably be from a 
bleeding-edge distro (e.g. Fedora Rawhide). If you don't want you system to 
be a disaster zone, though, Arch got systemd 237 just two weeks after release.


Fedora will push systemd releases with their new versions, which come out 
every six months, and I believe non-LTS Ubuntu distros are probably the same.


Anything LTS though (like Ubuntu LTS, Debian, or your own CentOS) is going 
to be the absolute *worst* for getting pretty much anything new...




On July 18, 2018 5:27:09 PM Juanjo Presa  wrote:


I wonder which ways are to run last systemd versions? nowadays Im running
Centos 7 with systemd facebook backports (
https://github.com/facebookincubator/rpm-backports). But maybe you guys
have another way, NixOs? Archlinux?

Tyvm.



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[systemd-devel] Best way to run upstream systemd

2018-07-18 Thread Juanjo Presa
I wonder which ways are to run last systemd versions? nowadays Im running
Centos 7 with systemd facebook backports (
https://github.com/facebookincubator/rpm-backports). But maybe you guys
have another way, NixOs? Archlinux?

Tyvm.
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