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Happy Thanksgiving
bob
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Subject: RE: t-and-f: Happy
If the B sample turns out negative, while the A was positive, is the A ever retested, to see why there is such a discrepancy?
Why do some A and B samples show differing results? Lab error? What percent of all tests show this difference in results?
bob
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Not to nitpick but from an earlier post:
The state of the sport leads to such uncredibility. Alan
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: rutto
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:50:23 +
Alans emails are repetitive and boring and are quite simply annoying. It brings no new info to the debate or to the list. Who cares what you think..you have no inside info nor even do you have the nuts to name names and stick to itwhy even bother..yeah we all think/know that there are SOME
Keep slinging that mud Alan. Its really easy from a keyboard. What you dont seem to understand is that IF this guyjust happens to beclean (and I'd buy Petes story over yours any day), maybe you owe him an apology?
Does the Kool-aid taste a little bitter?
bob
Can you blame me for being
From: "alan tobin" :<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
", I also represented Dieter Baumann"
Well, that says it all.
Alan
Actually it doesn't. Im pretty certain Templeton became Baumanns manager AFTER the whole drug fiasco.
So whats your point?
bob
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Does any one see an equivalence in the hunt for druggies and the hunt for
WMD in Iraq? Seems like we're dealing in false intelligence reports in both
cases.
No one knows for sure how many runners are doping, yet some people want to
believe its a large number. Shouldn't both sides be shocked
You write, I respond. Short enough for you?
bob
Please refrain from speaking for me in the future, I have an underworked publicity staff that can manage those duties effectively.
Thank you,
malmo
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Some thoughts about your post.
Michael Contopoulos:
Given that, and given that these guys were busted, I fail to see how you can think most are NOT cheating.
And:
And I don't use drugs as an excuse for why American's "can't compete". I still think we can... and I still think that you can
From Alan on Sept 4th re Lagats positive A Sample:
Am I the only one not shocked? Once we all realize that most of the top athletes in the sport are on something then we all will cease to be shocked. Track is like Cycling. In order to be a champion you have to be doped on something. Alan
Today:
Michael Contopoulos wrote:
I actually think it would be better for the sporthad Lagat been busted.
Just unbelievable. Glad you have your priorities right.
Of course if he truly is clean, I'm glad he's back,
Really? Its pretty evident that you want to believe hes guilty. But Im sure Lagat
where it can be all but eliminated. Lets not give up on the fight before we get there.
bob
From: "Conway Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "B. Kunnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: t-and-f: forwarded message (
Drugs and their existence is like speeders and their existence.
Why dont more people speed?Because there are laws against it and its enforced. Why? Because it could be unsafe for you (sometimes), it could be unsafe (unfair)for others.
Look at countries without good laws or enforcement: high
I dont think it was ever stated that it was IMPOSSIBLE for the Kenyansto cheat. What is a more accurate statement would be to say that it was felt, (and still is by some of us) that it is largely against their character to cheat.
Now with the busting of Lagat (jury is till out remember?),
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Three problems with this statement:
Second, no one, I repeat, NO ONE, is able to record absolutely every
event or influence in their life. For example, I suspect that ALL
of us have mistakes in our tax returns, yet the consequences of
having
Some thoughts on Lagat:
First, complete shock. I for one did not think he of all people would do drugs. Of course I'm assuming now that the B sample tests positive as well. (Malmo, he's a Nike shoepusher, hardly a smiling pastoralist!! This isnt rumor mongering, this is fact, well nearly so)
IF
This whole drug debate is like flogging a dead horse.
People on drugs find ways (and sympathizers) to get off the charges. People who arent on drugs are susupected of doping, rightly or wrongly.
Remember, this is their JOB. Its not a game or a hobby.
Think for a second that you are in the World
Could the dots also be connected another way? Using results drawn from several Swedish studies, it seems that for some reason, Kenyan (and possibly other African athletes) seem to have less muscle breakdown and hence faster recoveries with repeated stress. Couldn't this be a reason why methods
In the sprints, to be modest and humble is to be overlooked. I for one, hope he continues to be himself.
bob
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Subject: t-and-f: Often-overlooked hurdler to carry U.S. flag
Date:
John,
Since you quote me in your piece let me point out your double speak.
About Ondieki:
You may have not been a big fan of the sport when Ondieki ran his 26:58 but I was. At the time it was absolutely shocking and also inexplicable. He had been on the Pro circuit for years and was very good,
Weldon,
Thats a far cry from your first post where you seemed to suggest that someone had walked up to you with "proof" that he/she knew of certain specific agents giving drugs to certain specific runners. Now you're into full denial and damage control.
If thats all you have to go on , then I
The flip side to that arguement being that there will be many innocent teenagers who happen to be born in outlying rural areas of Africa, who through no fault of their own will be ruled ineligible to compete. Surpising as it may seemt o many people, many births in rural areas are not recorded,
For someone living in the western world its easy to say that. But the realities of life elsewhere are different.
Given that most of the worlds top distance runners come from Africa, and its hard for some people there to get access to Health Care and Officials in charge of paperwork, shouldnt we
The games will be shown on Candian tv, for those of you lucky enough to live near the border or in Canada.
Sat. June 28 3pm EST.
BK
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Whatever happened to our so called depth in distance events this year?
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